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I agree with his advice, and it feels like I'm giving that advice on a weekly basis to first and second year PhD students that think they can go to industry for
by chriskanan 11y ago
I agree with his advice, and it feels like I'm giving that advice on a weekly basis to first and second year PhD students that think they can go to industry for 3-5 years and then get a professorship. Some students have told me it works that way in China, but it definitely isn't true in the United States. Unless you can publish prolifically at your company (Microsoft Research, FAIR, Google Research, etc.) or work at a government laboratory, your CV will quickly lose its competitive edge after you leave the university.
As an aside, just managing to be competitive for professorships after one's PhD or postdoc is an enormous challenge due to the scarcity of positions and the qualifications of competitors. Based on some limited analysis I did previously, the number of publications required to get an interview is often in the range of 10-30 [1,2].
[1] http://www.chriskanan.com/statistics-on-ucsds-computer-science-faculty-candidates/ http://www.chriskanan.com/statistics-on-ucsds-computer-scien...
[2] http://www.chriskanan.com/planning-for-life-after-your-phd/ http://www.chriskanan.com/planning-for-life-after-your-phd/
- pgbovine 11y agoThat's 1000% correct. As someone who came from industry (Google) back to academia 3 years ago, and who has been involved in faculty hiring for the past 2 years, the odds are totally against traditional industry applicants unless they've been in a publication-oriented lab such as MSR for computer science (or unless they've won some really notable international award). [Edit: also, the longer it's been since your Ph.D., the higher the bar implicitly is for you. so if you haven't published much since finishing your Ph.D., with each year you wait, there will be a new crop of fresh Ph.D. graduates who look more competitive on the market.]
- unixhero 11y agoWhy does the World need to be like this? That edit there is soul destroying stuff.