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The moment the theory is the reality, it's exact. Like cartoons. Like definitions. Like math. But physics and science is about reality. It's about the physical
by unabst 11y ago
The moment the theory is the reality, it's exact. Like cartoons. Like definitions. Like math. But physics and science is about reality. It's about the physical apple, not the word apple. A real apple is physical. There is no amount of theory or symbolism that will produce a real apple in the minds and systems that simulate it. That's the paradox.
- coldtea 11y ago>A real apple is physical. There is no amount of theory or symbolism that will produce a real apple in the minds and systems that simulate it. That's the paradox. Actually, I see two problems with this notion. First, there's no "paradox". That "no amount or theory or symbolism will produce a real apple" is not paradoxical. If anything, it's common sense. Second, this common sense might very well be wrong (and that would be a real paradox this time). In fact, what you call "real apple" might itself be a simulation (along with all the universe we know) -- created by higher order beings. Still, you might say, our theories, us being inhabitants of the (simulated) universe, won't produce a real apple for us. But who's to say that? It depends on the rules of the simulated universe. And we can't say with 100% certainty we know the rules of ours (if it's one such). E.g. the rules could very well allow the thoughts and symbolism of its inhabitants to create new objects in the universe. In that sense, the universe would be like Lisp (where data are code), or like using "reflection".