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Is the problem a lack of budget or how those resources are spent ? Giving more money to a failing organisation without oversight will not get better results.

by deepnet 11y ago

Is the problem a lack of budget or how those resources are spent ? Giving more money to a failing organisation without oversight will not get better results. The failures need a spotlight, questions must be asked and answered. Secrecy has failed us; Public oversight is needed. Could this have been carried out without phones ? The terrorists planned this in close physical contact, they excecuted it in close contact - not having phones would have made little difference - synchronising watches, etc. Our 'homeland' security apparatus was created by Neoconservatives, has it been reformed since ? The phones issue is a red-herring to distract from the real and continued failures of our security services - this endangers us all.

dogma1138 11y ago
The Belgian state security service which is responsible for both internal and external security (MI5+MI6, FBI+CIA, Mossad+ShinBet etc.) has 150 employees and has seen budget cuts last year despite the Paris attacks. Belgium (and many other European countries) has ghettos which are filled with "immigrants" many of them of 2nd and 3rd generation predominately Muslim. Those ghettos aren't policed as the police in many cases is afraid of going in to do their day to day policing and even simple warrants require the use of SWAT if not the army. The population in those ghettos ranges from being supportive, to sympathetic to plain refusing to cooperate with the authorities for what ever reason which means that there is almost no penetration as far as traditional HUMINT sources goes. It took Belgium months to find one guy that was hiding in within only a few blocks because the local population is not cooperative and some parts of it conspired to assist him. But any time that this issue has been brought up it pretty much ended as a political fiasco and often a political suicide. When some one suggested that the security services need to build an outreach program that would specifically target the Muslim population to both build trust between law enforcement and the migrant communities as well as a network of informants, they are quite often being labeled as racist, islamophobic and could kiss their career goodbye.

by deepnet 11y ago

dogma1138 11y ago

The Belgian state security service which is responsible for both internal and external security (MI5+MI6, FBI+CIA, Mossad+ShinBet etc.) has 150 employees and has seen budget cuts last year despite the Paris attacks. Belgium (and many other European countries) has ghettos which are filled with "immigrants" many of them of 2nd and 3rd generation predominately Muslim. Those ghettos aren't policed as the police in many cases is afraid of going in to do their day to day policing and even simple warrants require the use of SWAT if not the army. The population in those ghettos ranges from being supportive, to sympathetic to plain refusing to cooperate with the authorities for what ever reason which means that there is almost no penetration as far as traditional HUMINT sources goes. It took Belgium months to find one guy that was hiding in within only a few blocks because the local population is not cooperative and some parts of it conspired to assist him. But any time that this issue has been brought up it pretty much ended as a political fiasco and often a political suicide. When some one suggested that the security services need to build an outreach program that would specifically target the Muslim population to both build trust between law enforcement and the migrant communities as well as a network of informants, they are quite often being labeled as racist, islamophobic and could kiss their career goodbye.