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Your comment is a perfect example of the kind of incomplete and normative reasoning about names that causes systems to fail. The problem isn't that you're not c

by Dr_tldr 11y ago

Your comment is a perfect example of the kind of incomplete and normative reasoning about names that causes systems to fail. The problem isn't that you're not careful, the problem is that your fundamental assumptions are based on incomplete knowledge. For instance, you mentioned accommodating Cyrillic letters, but you didn't know you'd need to include a field for patronym, which is not the same thing as a middle name and can't just be included in the first name field without causing potential problems.

alextgordon 11y ago
And there's at least tens of millions of people who only have one name: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mononymous_person#Modern_times https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mononymous_person#Modern_times https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indonesian_names#Mononymic_names https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indonesian_names#Mononymic_nam...
Grishnakh 11y ago
No, I addressed this. It's really simple: you don't need fields for different names!! Just have a single field: "name". That's it. People can put whatever name they want there, using any character set. If they want a "patronym", whatever the hell that is, no problem, just stick it in there! If they want a suffix like a bunch of Southerners here in America insist on for some archaic reason (like "Jimmy Bob Dalton III" or "Joe Smith Jr."), no problem, just put it there. For mailing addresses, this is all you need. Postal organizations do NOT care about your name, they just want your address and some kind of name as a check in case there's a delivery problem (or there's been a forwarding address filed for a particular name). Payment processors may need something more defined, but those are frequently more standardized by country, but usually, at least here in the US, all they care about is "enter your name as it's written on the card here...". They don't care about your actual name, they just want to match the string you enter with the string the credit card has.

by Dr_tldr 11y ago

alextgordon 11y ago

And there's at least tens of millions of people who only have one name: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mononymous_person#Modern_times https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mononymous_person#Modern_times https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indonesian_names#Mononymic_names https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indonesian_names#Mononymic_nam...

Grishnakh 11y ago

No, I addressed this. It's really simple: you don't need fields for different names!! Just have a single field: "name". That's it. People can put whatever name they want there, using any character set. If they want a "patronym", whatever the hell that is, no problem, just stick it in there! If they want a suffix like a bunch of Southerners here in America insist on for some archaic reason (like "Jimmy Bob Dalton III" or "Joe Smith Jr."), no problem, just put it there. For mailing addresses, this is all you need. Postal organizations do NOT care about your name, they just want your address and some kind of name as a check in case there's a delivery problem (or there's been a forwarding address filed for a particular name). Payment processors may need something more defined, but those are frequently more standardized by country, but usually, at least here in the US, all they care about is "enter your name as it's written on the card here...". They don't care about your actual name, they just want to match the string you enter with the string the credit card has.