>> I mean I'm a 9-5 programmer who likes to learn off-hours and sometimes I'm envious of the Silicon Valley salaries, but then I see the 90+ hour weeks that are

>> I mean I'm a 9-5 programmer who likes to learn off-hours and sometimes I'm envious of the Silicon Valley salaries, but then I see the 90+ hour weeks that are expected along with the rent you unfortunate souls have to pay, and all I can think is NOPE! Plenty of people enjoy Silicon Valley salaries with 40 hour work weeks. I expect that most people with those salaries work closer to 40 hours than 60. In fact, I don't personally know anyone who works more than 50 hours a week unless they're building a startup and it's their baby. I don't mean to pick on you, it's just that I read things like this... >> I'd rather make somewhat less money so I can have at least some choice in my life rather than be completely owned by my boss like some kind of indentured servant! ...on HN all the time, and every single time I think to myself, "You can have both!" I'm not denying that there exist jobs with work-life balances that resemble dystopian hellscapes full of abject misery, but it's just frankly not the norm.