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A quick google search on 'permission based email service' shows email lists- marketing related results, do you know any of such service provider? Maybe some da

by macns 11y ago

A quick google search on 'permission based email service' shows email lists- marketing related results, do you know any of such service provider? Maybe some day email will fade away giving its place to an IM, though I'm not sure it will always be spam-filter free.

Zigurd 11y ago
Boxbe is one that I have encountered people using: http://www.boxbe.com/help http://www.boxbe.com/help It's a little surprising this was never a standard part of email. It's the same workflow as granting permission to be contacted by IM. Based on a quick search, you are right that the phrase "permission based email" has been SEO'ed into uselessness by email marketing services. What should it be called? Screening? But the spam filtering services have almost SEO'ed that into uselessness.
- macns 11y ago
  Boxbe is an interesting service, thanks. Maybe this 'permission-based' was never a standard because spam didn't exist back then and, later when it did exist, didn't play well with the idea of mailing lists. In the latter context it's funny how this search term is SEO'd to return marketing services! Having just read a former google abuse team member's take on end to end encryption and anti-spam[1], this topic now looks a lot more complex. Regarding IM's, he mentions how spam-free WhatsApp is and argues that spam is a lot easier to fight when you have central control because you can change anything at any time at any point (client or server). [1] Mike Hearn, https://moderncrypto.org/mail-archive/messaging/2014/000780.html https://moderncrypto.org/mail-archive/messaging/2014/000780....
  - Zigurd 11y ago
    IM is low in spam because spammers would have to wheedle their way onto your contact list to spam you. Same for social networks. You just delete or block spammy "friends."
paulryanrogers 11y ago
Whitelist based email

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A quick google search on 'permission based email service' shows email lists- marketing related results, do you know any of such service provider? Maybe some da

by macns 11y ago

Zigurd 11y ago
Boxbe is one that I have encountered people using: http://www.boxbe.com/help http://www.boxbe.com/help It's a little surprising this was never a standard part of email. It's the same workflow as granting permission to be contacted by IM. Based on a quick search, you are right that the phrase "permission based email" has been SEO'ed into uselessness by email marketing services. What should it be called? Screening? But the spam filtering services have almost SEO'ed that into uselessness.
- macns 11y ago
  Boxbe is an interesting service, thanks. Maybe this 'permission-based' was never a standard because spam didn't exist back then and, later when it did exist, didn't play well with the idea of mailing lists. In the latter context it's funny how this search term is SEO'd to return marketing services! Having just read a former google abuse team member's take on end to end encryption and anti-spam[1], this topic now looks a lot more complex. Regarding IM's, he mentions how spam-free WhatsApp is and argues that spam is a lot easier to fight when you have central control because you can change anything at any time at any point (client or server). [1] Mike Hearn, https://moderncrypto.org/mail-archive/messaging/2014/000780.html https://moderncrypto.org/mail-archive/messaging/2014/000780....
  - Zigurd 11y ago
    IM is low in spam because spammers would have to wheedle their way onto your contact list to spam you. Same for social networks. You just delete or block spammy "friends."
paulryanrogers 11y ago
Whitelist based email