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Yeah, the only purpose of that account is to make me laugh. However, this isn't just gratuitous. Here the issue is similar with the sci-hub one: there's a fair

Yeah, the only purpose of that account is to make me laugh. However, this isn't just gratuitous. Here the issue is similar with the sci-hub one: there's a fairly legitimate motivation for piracy, so there's a lot of comments over "free knowledge so copyright is theft", and a bit of "piracy is theft". But not all piracy is equal, and sharing knowledge (research papers, etc) is useful and participate into making people more informed, but the bulk of piracy is part of the problem. 1) It's diverting considerable effort that could go into free software. If you had to either pay for Photoshop or use a free solution, Gimp and Krita would get insanely more resources. In other words, piracy is a key element in closed-software dominance. 2) Popular movies and TV shows are made to keep people as uneducated imbeciles. So sharing research papers is not the same thing as what commonly falls under the "piracy" moniker. That's what that snark meant.

scrollaway 11y ago
I don't disagree with #1 (cf my other comment in the thread regarding Adobe's MO). But you'll get your point across better if you quit the snark, that is all. Re #2: That's the funniest conspiracy theory I've heard all year. But don't take it from me - I edit tvtropes so I'm in on it too. Oops. That was snark. :)
- logicrook 11y ago
  I write snarky comments targeting opinions that express my thinking in a concise and funny (for me at least) way. Then you come and tell me to fix my attitude, directly judging my person. At no point did I judge you or used ad hominems. >But you'll get your point across better if you quit the snark, that is all. I'm not interested in getting my point accross, just in having fun. People have different objectives. Why do you want so much to tell me what I should do? Now regarding your #2, there are many links between TV exposure and bad school grades. Everybody on HN love to say that you must be a pretty idiot to read the dailymail or watch fox news, so a correlation between low intellectual content media consumption and low intelligence would harly surprise anybody. Yet you reply with "That's the funniest conspiracy theory", a logical fallacy intended to ridicule while avoiding to answer the argument. As you see, the whole conversation is rather useless, so snark is good enough.
  - scrollaway 11y ago
    > Why do you want so much to tell me what I should do? Maybe my objective is to tell you what you should do and you shouldn't judge my objectives? I don't know. There's assumptions you have to make if you want to have a healthy conversation. For example, the assumption that when someone enters a conversation as an active participant, they're not just here to waste everyone's time. That's essentially trolling. > correlations Just because you have "links between TV exposure and bad school grades" doesn't mean "TV shows are made to keep people as uneducated imbeciles". If I told you there's a link between knife usage and missing fingers, would you tell me knives are made to reduce the average amount of fingers? > a logical fallacy intended to ridicule while avoiding to answer the argument. If you don't want to be ridiculed and want your points to be answered seriously, maybe you shouldn't be so snarky all the time and hear people out when they tell you to stop. You can't have it both ways. You can't be an arse to everybody and then expect them to treat you with respect.
    - throw11221312 11y ago
      You were the one derailing this thread (insofar there is anything to derail: IP threads on HN are worthless and only good for entertainment).
placeybordeaux 11y ago
> Popular movies and TV shows are made to keep people as uneducated imbeciles. They are made to make money. The ones that 'keep people as uneducated imbeciles' are an unfortunate byproduct.
- logicrook 11y ago
  I agree, and this was poor wording on my part. I just wanted to point out that this side of piracy ensure that a large part of the population would not benefit much from it because it won't bring them any good (e.g. education, practical knowledge, etc) while providing easy ways to waste away their energy. The outcome of downloading research papers or educational content is not the same as downloading entertainment.

scrollaway 11y ago

I don't disagree with #1 (cf my other comment in the thread regarding Adobe's MO). But you'll get your point across better if you quit the snark, that is all. Re #2: That's the funniest conspiracy theory I've heard all year. But don't take it from me - I edit tvtropes so I'm in on it too. Oops. That was snark. :)

logicrook 11y ago
I write snarky comments targeting opinions that express my thinking in a concise and funny (for me at least) way. Then you come and tell me to fix my attitude, directly judging my person. At no point did I judge you or used ad hominems. >But you'll get your point across better if you quit the snark, that is all. I'm not interested in getting my point accross, just in having fun. People have different objectives. Why do you want so much to tell me what I should do? Now regarding your #2, there are many links between TV exposure and bad school grades. Everybody on HN love to say that you must be a pretty idiot to read the dailymail or watch fox news, so a correlation between low intellectual content media consumption and low intelligence would harly surprise anybody. Yet you reply with "That's the funniest conspiracy theory", a logical fallacy intended to ridicule while avoiding to answer the argument. As you see, the whole conversation is rather useless, so snark is good enough.
- scrollaway 11y ago
  > Why do you want so much to tell me what I should do? Maybe my objective is to tell you what you should do and you shouldn't judge my objectives? I don't know. There's assumptions you have to make if you want to have a healthy conversation. For example, the assumption that when someone enters a conversation as an active participant, they're not just here to waste everyone's time. That's essentially trolling. > correlations Just because you have "links between TV exposure and bad school grades" doesn't mean "TV shows are made to keep people as uneducated imbeciles". If I told you there's a link between knife usage and missing fingers, would you tell me knives are made to reduce the average amount of fingers? > a logical fallacy intended to ridicule while avoiding to answer the argument. If you don't want to be ridiculed and want your points to be answered seriously, maybe you shouldn't be so snarky all the time and hear people out when they tell you to stop. You can't have it both ways. You can't be an arse to everybody and then expect them to treat you with respect.
  - throw11221312 11y ago
    You were the one derailing this thread (insofar there is anything to derail: IP threads on HN are worthless and only good for entertainment).

placeybordeaux 11y ago

> Popular movies and TV shows are made to keep people as uneducated imbeciles. They are made to make money. The ones that 'keep people as uneducated imbeciles' are an unfortunate byproduct.

logicrook 11y ago
I agree, and this was poor wording on my part. I just wanted to point out that this side of piracy ensure that a large part of the population would not benefit much from it because it won't bring them any good (e.g. education, practical knowledge, etc) while providing easy ways to waste away their energy. The outcome of downloading research papers or educational content is not the same as downloading entertainment.