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My (former) psychiatrist labeled me noncompliant for requesting modern studies on SSRIs not done by the selling company before taking them. I guess I fall in th

by Joof 11y ago

My (former) psychiatrist labeled me noncompliant for requesting modern studies on SSRIs not done by the selling company before taking them. I guess I fall in that category.

TazeTSchnitzel 11y ago
Medical professionals don't seem to like it much when patients do anything that might call their expertise into question, it seems. :/
- Gravityloss 11y ago
  If you advised a friend on cryptography/databases and they started pushing back and repeating some questionable cliches? There's two sides to this. I've heard it's quite frustrating to be a teacher or doctor nowadays...
  - machinelearning 11y ago
    There is a huge asymmetry in the consequences of not pushing back. While the expert might be frequently frustrated by having to explain away the same cliches, the patient/customer has a lot to lose by not pushing back. Especially when the topic in question is a person's health.
  - Joof 11y ago
    On the flip side, how many programmers still make mistakes in cryptography and databases when they are knowledgeable about them? Could any single programmer write a cryptographically secure 'anything' even as an expert in their field? Now imagine the program they are writing is someone else's life and they are an expert, but the tools they use are unstable, have frequent revisions and don't notify you when something changes and have tons of undefined behavior. Testing also likes to return more or less random values and you can only kind of tell what the outcome has been.
ci5er 11y ago
Non-compliant or resistant? The former means "you don't do what I tell you to do" and the latter means "my attempts to fix you aren't working, but it isn't my fault". I hear a lot more of the latter in the literature. In fact, I don't think I recall ever hearing the former...
- Joof 11y ago
  Non compliant by her words. She didn't care to explain or point me to a source I could use to research it properly, I didn't take the medication. I've never seen a doctor so irrationally angry before and probably never will again. She probably assumed I was antipsychiatry or something. Sorry, I don't care how much depression costs America each year, that doesn't say anything about efficacy and side effects. At the time, there were meta-analysis calling it into serious question. I'm still a bit suspect of the efficacy to be honest, but the research is improving somewhat and the conclusions look better. I'm fine now in any case (I got better).

by Joof 11y ago

My (former) psychiatrist labeled me noncompliant for requesting modern studies on SSRIs not done by the selling company before taking them. I guess I fall in that category.

TazeTSchnitzel 11y ago

Medical professionals don't seem to like it much when patients do anything that might call their expertise into question, it seems. :/

Gravityloss 11y ago
If you advised a friend on cryptography/databases and they started pushing back and repeating some questionable cliches? There's two sides to this. I've heard it's quite frustrating to be a teacher or doctor nowadays...
- machinelearning 11y ago
  There is a huge asymmetry in the consequences of not pushing back. While the expert might be frequently frustrated by having to explain away the same cliches, the patient/customer has a lot to lose by not pushing back. Especially when the topic in question is a person's health.
- Joof 11y ago
  On the flip side, how many programmers still make mistakes in cryptography and databases when they are knowledgeable about them? Could any single programmer write a cryptographically secure 'anything' even as an expert in their field? Now imagine the program they are writing is someone else's life and they are an expert, but the tools they use are unstable, have frequent revisions and don't notify you when something changes and have tons of undefined behavior. Testing also likes to return more or less random values and you can only kind of tell what the outcome has been.

ci5er 11y ago

Non-compliant or resistant? The former means "you don't do what I tell you to do" and the latter means "my attempts to fix you aren't working, but it isn't my fault". I hear a lot more of the latter in the literature. In fact, I don't think I recall ever hearing the former...

Joof 11y ago
Non compliant by her words. She didn't care to explain or point me to a source I could use to research it properly, I didn't take the medication. I've never seen a doctor so irrationally angry before and probably never will again. She probably assumed I was antipsychiatry or something. Sorry, I don't care how much depression costs America each year, that doesn't say anything about efficacy and side effects. At the time, there were meta-analysis calling it into serious question. I'm still a bit suspect of the efficacy to be honest, but the research is improving somewhat and the conclusions look better. I'm fine now in any case (I got better).