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Thanks for your feedback! At present, the list of available categories and filters has been kept short to ensure simplicity. We might think about allowing any
by marco1 11y ago
Thanks for your feedback!
At present, the list of available categories and filters has been kept short to ensure simplicity.
We might think about allowing any custom categories, as you suggested. So we should definitely keep that idea in mind.
But let's assume you added "rape" as a category (which we thougth about as well): Then when do you add "rape" versus the existing "violence", "sex" or "nudity"? Do you have to add them all for most rape scenes? On the other hand, what do the consumers do? Do they have to tick dozens of boxes to ensure that no unwanted scenes are shown?
The more categories you add, the more blurred do the boundaries become.
- luma 11y agoHaving this sort of control seems to be the only way for something like this to be useful across a wide range of audiences. My wife will watch people being murdered and maimed in the most horrifying of manners, but the second an animal comes to harm she'll get up and walk out of the room (and then blame me for making her watch it). "Violence" doesn't cover her specific use case, so without the ability to narrow that to "animal cruelty", it wouldn't address our own requirements.
- Terribledactyl 11y ago> The more categories you add, the more blurred do the boundaries become. I think that's kind of the point. There isn't a single coherent dependency for all cultures for all content. To have a simplified single set is to place one (semi arbitrary) value system over another. You could study the correlations and common concurrent uses, and maybe provide common suggestions, like Amazon does. But again, boundaries and weirdness.
- marco1 11y ago> There isn't a single coherent dependency for all cultures for all content. Really an important point. Thanks!
- baddox 11y agoBut this is software that is intended to actually be used by humans. It would be a far worse user experience to prohibit the "sex" category but then be shown a rape scene because someone added "rape" as a custom category. This concept really doesn't work without standardized categories. Of course, you could argue that more granularity should be added to the categories, and I don't necessarily disagree. You could even have a directed graph of categories, so that (for instance) "rape" could be a descendant of both "violence" and "sex" and thus rape scenes would be banned if the user banned either violence or sex.
- marco1 11y agoThanks for these interesting suggestions for implementation! The only downside I could think of is that things could get a bit untransparent with such complex graphs. People could think: "Why did I miss this scene? I haven't even enabled that particular filter."
- michaelkeenan 11y agoI expect that enabling custom categories could lead to this being useful in ways that you'd never expect. For example, people with misophonia HATE the sound of people chewing loudly. It's not uncommon (the misophonia subreddit has 8,000 subscribers). I'd love to use your filter to mute the audio (and simultaneously turn on the subtitles, if possible) when there are misophonia triggers in movies. People with misophonia are already interested in movie warnings for this (e.g. the subreddit had several high profile warnings about the triggers in The Martian). If misophonia is a possible useful application of custom categories, there might be many others.
- marco1 11y agoVery good example, thank you! So these small communities could really profit from such an open format, in case custom categories were added. They will certainly not get this with the commercial providers of movie filtering.
- rmc 11y ago> Then when do you add "rape" versus the existing "violence", "sex" or "nudity"? Do you have to add them all for most rape scenes? Rape is sex without consent, big difference between that and violent (consensual) sex. "rape" might also include some frat boys joking about rape, which might really upset a rape victim watching it.
- oh_sigh 11y agoIsn't the latter more metarape than rape?
- rmc 11y agoA "rape" category doesn't have to include scenes of the act. Someone who doesn't want to see anything to do with rape, would not want to hear rape jokes.
- marco1 11y ago> Rape is sex without consent, big difference between that and violent (consensual) sex. We don't have to discuss this. Everybody should know this and agree. But the point was that rape scenes often include sex or nudity. So if you tagged a scene 'rape', you would often have to add the other related tags as well. This is because somebody might have banned 'nudity' only.
- rmc 11y ago> We don't have to discuss this. Everybody should know this and agree. The comment I was replying to, implied that you could just have violence+sex+nudity categories instead: when do you add "rape" versus the existing "violence", "sex" or "nudity"?
- Jtsummers 11y agoWhy not multiple tags then? Rape is a specific instance of both sex and violence (and potentially includes nudity). If someone wanted all violence and/or sex filtered out then rape would be as well. But if they had no issue with violence in general, or sex in general, but specifically an issue with rape, then they could go to that level of specificity.
- oh_sigh 11y agoTwo feature requests: 1) Add a "product placement" category. 2) Add support for a custom mask instead of just blanking out video/audio. This way, I can see that the character is drinking a delicious soda, but I don't need to know the exact kind.
- marco1 11y agoThank you! Regarding (1), we should definitely add this. Regarding (2), there are two reasons why this might not be a good idea: First, it would be hard to tag. Second, it's not supported by the three formats that the project currently "transpiles" to.