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Well, obviously the less police and the general public are put in this position the better, and when there is a gunman running around the neighborhood, there be
by yoo1I 11y ago
Well, obviously the less police and the general public are put in this position the better, and when there is a gunman running around the neighborhood, there better be police to subdue, and yes, if it's required to save other lives, kill him.
The point here, though is not to deny police their right to self defense, the point is to train them in a way that their first action to exercise that right is not with as much force as possible, but with as much force as is necessary.
Clearly emptying multiple magazines into someone speaks of fear, rather than necessity, and I do not wish to be policed and protected by the fearful.
But to your larger point, I agree: building a society in which there is little to none violence is a desirable goal.
- tptacek 11y agoThat's actually not my point. My preferred solution to this problem isn't utopian. We could do it tomorrow: Step 1: Ensure every police patrol vehicle has a shotgun locked in the trunk. Step 2: Take away handguns from all patrol officers.
- yoo1I 11y agoI think that's an entirely reasonable policy.
- JoeAltmaier 11y agoLet me expand on that: when discovering a violent, armed offender, 1 Policeman dies. Then their partner fetches the locked-up shotgun. Hopefully before they die too. Gonna need a lot more Policemen. Because, attrition.
- eli_gottlieb 11y agoThat's an excellent idea, especially considering that in my very limited time in California, their cops were the most heavily-armed human beings I'd ever seen in-person. And these were policemen and sheriffs in Redwood City. And I've seen on-duty soldiers. California cops honestly had me wondering why anyone would ever really need to walk around looking like they'd stepped out of a Hollywood shoot-em-up movie, with two handguns, a rifle, and another larger weapon strapped to their back. Maybe they were there for a cartel bust or some shit I didn't know about, but that simply was not appropriate for ordinary beat policing. Luckily, I was white enough that they didn't give me crap for staring at them.
- debacle 11y agoMost police are not the kind of police you see on COPS. If COPS imitated real life, most of the episode would be spent filling out paperwork or giving citations.