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How can you ignore the inciting incident in this case? Perhaps the victim was a man with some personal issues, but before being harassed by Evan Snow, Alex Niet

How can you ignore the inciting incident in this case? Perhaps the victim was a man with some personal issues, but before being harassed by Evan Snow, Alex Nieto was a man minding his own business.

tptacek 11y ago
That's not what happened. Snow was an irresponsible dog owner; his dog jumped on Nieto. That happens to me on walks once every other week. I am rarely murdered as a result. What made this situation special was that Nieto was armed with a taser. When Snow's dog assaulted him, as poorly managed dogs do, Nieto prepared to zap it with the taser. Snow tried to tell Nieto not to tase his dog (the DA investigation says that Snow "begged" Nieto not to tase his dog, but let's allocate all charity to the dead and assume Snow was a dick about it). Nieto's problem stopped being the dog. Instead, he confronted Snow, threatening to tase him, and suggesting that the two fight. That, too, is detail we can only source from Snow's own report, but it squares with things like the text he sent to his friend and the reports he made to people outside the park.
- dmschulman 11y ago
  The dog is Snow's property. His irresponsibility as a dog owner set off this series of events. The victim did not threaten a man's dog out of spite, he felt threatened by the animal and Snow's actions (or lack there of) escalated this unfortunate situation.
  - tptacek 11y ago
    What did I write that made you think I would disagree with that? He was a shitty dog owner, and an asshole. There are millions of shitty dog owners and even more assholes (and that is an overlapping Venn diagram if ever). He was also probably a racist --- that text message did happen, and the DA report suggests he's a firearms enthusiast as well. He's a creepy guy I don't ever want to meet. That doesn't make him in any way responsible for Nieto's death. Sorry, it just doesn't.

How can you ignore the inciting incident in this case? Perhaps the victim was a man with some personal issues, but before being harassed by Evan Snow, Alex Nieto was a man minding his own business.

tptacek 11y ago

That's not what happened. Snow was an irresponsible dog owner; his dog jumped on Nieto. That happens to me on walks once every other week. I am rarely murdered as a result. What made this situation special was that Nieto was armed with a taser. When Snow's dog assaulted him, as poorly managed dogs do, Nieto prepared to zap it with the taser. Snow tried to tell Nieto not to tase his dog (the DA investigation says that Snow "begged" Nieto not to tase his dog, but let's allocate all charity to the dead and assume Snow was a dick about it). Nieto's problem stopped being the dog. Instead, he confronted Snow, threatening to tase him, and suggesting that the two fight. That, too, is detail we can only source from Snow's own report, but it squares with things like the text he sent to his friend and the reports he made to people outside the park.

dmschulman 11y ago
The dog is Snow's property. His irresponsibility as a dog owner set off this series of events. The victim did not threaten a man's dog out of spite, he felt threatened by the animal and Snow's actions (or lack there of) escalated this unfortunate situation.
- tptacek 11y ago
  What did I write that made you think I would disagree with that? He was a shitty dog owner, and an asshole. There are millions of shitty dog owners and even more assholes (and that is an overlapping Venn diagram if ever). He was also probably a racist --- that text message did happen, and the DA report suggests he's a firearms enthusiast as well. He's a creepy guy I don't ever want to meet. That doesn't make him in any way responsible for Nieto's death. Sorry, it just doesn't.