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Not all views are equal. Some views are so horrendous it is our moral duty to ostracize their believers.

erics32 11y ago
How right you are! Let's ostracize and noplatform all the wrongthinkers. How about we start by banning those horrendous muslims whose beliefs are homophobic, sexist, calls for the death of apostates and atheists etc. Or maybe those sexist homophobic christians?
- zahmahkibo 11y ago
  Again, not all views are equal. Stop trying to pretend they are.
- zahmahkibo 11y ago
  Again, this presupposes that all thoughts are equal. They are not. This should be a trivial distinction for a hacker to make. It is also particularly interesting you are talking about groups of people, when this discussion was about Moldbug. That Moldbug holds sociopathic opinions is at this point simply a matter of public record. Anyone with an internet connection can confirm this.
13thLetter 11y ago
For example, the view that people should be prevented from earning a living if they have the wrong political opinions.
- zahmahkibo 11y ago
  No one is obligated to like you or associate with you, doubly so if you have political beliefs that would likely result in their slavery. Community sanctions are part of what it means to be human.
  - 13thLetter 11y ago
    Along the same lines, no one is obligated to like you or associate with you, doubly so if you have political beliefs that would likely result in their being unable to earn a living in their field. > Community sanctions are part of what it means to be human. But not the only part, or even the most important part. (And as long as we're getting philosophical, just because they're part of what it means to be human doesn't mean they're always admirable. Prejudice against outsiders is also part of what it means to be human, after all.)
    - zahmahkibo 11y ago
      Fine, don't associate with me. Fuck do I care if a Fascist doesn't associate with me?
tomp 11y ago
I think we should only ostracize people like you, who want to ostracize others (i.e. those that practice intolerance).

How right you are! Let's ostracize and noplatform all the wrongthinkers. How about we start by banning those horrendous muslims whose beliefs are homophobic, sexist, calls for the death of apostates and atheists etc. Or maybe those sexist homophobic christians?

zahmahkibo 11y ago
Again, not all views are equal. Stop trying to pretend they are.
zahmahkibo 11y ago
Again, this presupposes that all thoughts are equal. They are not. This should be a trivial distinction for a hacker to make. It is also particularly interesting you are talking about groups of people, when this discussion was about Moldbug. That Moldbug holds sociopathic opinions is at this point simply a matter of public record. Anyone with an internet connection can confirm this.

13thLetter 11y ago

For example, the view that people should be prevented from earning a living if they have the wrong political opinions.

zahmahkibo 11y ago
No one is obligated to like you or associate with you, doubly so if you have political beliefs that would likely result in their slavery. Community sanctions are part of what it means to be human.
- 13thLetter 11y ago
  Along the same lines, no one is obligated to like you or associate with you, doubly so if you have political beliefs that would likely result in their being unable to earn a living in their field. > Community sanctions are part of what it means to be human. But not the only part, or even the most important part. (And as long as we're getting philosophical, just because they're part of what it means to be human doesn't mean they're always admirable. Prejudice against outsiders is also part of what it means to be human, after all.)
  - zahmahkibo 11y ago
    Fine, don't associate with me. Fuck do I care if a Fascist doesn't associate with me?

tomp 11y ago

I think we should only ostracize people like you, who want to ostracize others (i.e. those that practice intolerance).