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Since when did surveillance == pornography? Is CCTV pornography? This story isn't even about pornography. Why are we talking about pornography?!

andrewcooke 17y ago
because child porn laws - or at least the perception of them - have become so disconnected from basic ideas like victim and intention that they appear completely arbitrary, associated with little more than unauthorised pictures of minors.
electromagnetic 17y ago
I believe it's because you basically handed a remotely activated camera to a teenager in the implicit knowledge that said remotely activated camera will be taken into the teenagers room where they're going to at some point be naked. Placing a camera in someone's room is akin to placing it in a bathroom, because at some point someone's getting naked and how a group of adults didn't comprehend this speaks worlds about the quality of education provided by the school in question. There's also the very concerning matter that 50% of the students are likely male, and ~90% of males access porn through the internet. This means that 45% of students likely used this computer to look at porn, which likely means at some point 45% of the students had their penis' out in front of the laptop in question, which has a remotely activated camera on it. This isn't even discussing the 1/3 of women who access porn via the internet. This isn't even discussing the fact that a percentage of these students likely used the cameras for video-sex with their partners (personal experience on that one). I'm sorry this is either gross ignorance that should be as severely punished as possible or it's exactly as bad as this thread of comments has taken it, and it should be as severely punished as possible. Regardless the potential was there to use the system for child pornography, and if there are no records that any compromising pictures were taken, then the school and its board members got exceptionally lucky.
Daniel_Newby 17y ago
"Since when did surveillance == pornography?" Since the camera was issued to accompany the student throughout their daily life: bedroom, changing the diaper of a toddler they are babysitting, bathroom, etc.

andrewcooke 17y ago

because child porn laws - or at least the perception of them - have become so disconnected from basic ideas like victim and intention that they appear completely arbitrary, associated with little more than unauthorised pictures of minors.

electromagnetic 17y ago

I believe it's because you basically handed a remotely activated camera to a teenager in the implicit knowledge that said remotely activated camera will be taken into the teenagers room where they're going to at some point be naked. Placing a camera in someone's room is akin to placing it in a bathroom, because at some point someone's getting naked and how a group of adults didn't comprehend this speaks worlds about the quality of education provided by the school in question. There's also the very concerning matter that 50% of the students are likely male, and ~90% of males access porn through the internet. This means that 45% of students likely used this computer to look at porn, which likely means at some point 45% of the students had their penis' out in front of the laptop in question, which has a remotely activated camera on it. This isn't even discussing the 1/3 of women who access porn via the internet. This isn't even discussing the fact that a percentage of these students likely used the cameras for video-sex with their partners (personal experience on that one). I'm sorry this is either gross ignorance that should be as severely punished as possible or it's exactly as bad as this thread of comments has taken it, and it should be as severely punished as possible. Regardless the potential was there to use the system for child pornography, and if there are no records that any compromising pictures were taken, then the school and its board members got exceptionally lucky.

Daniel_Newby 17y ago

"Since when did surveillance == pornography?" Since the camera was issued to accompany the student throughout their daily life: bedroom, changing the diaper of a toddler they are babysitting, bathroom, etc.