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ODROID-C2 Compared to Raspberry Pi 3 and Orange Pi Plus
- RachelF 11y agoGreat performance improvements, but lacking much community and third party support, unfortunately.
- JustSomeNobody 11y agoSo, buy one and get involved. :)
- CalRobert 11y agoI try! I wrote about using one one what used to be my self-hosted Ghost blog. I run Owncloud on it too and it works great. Admittedly I haven't written much lately since I moved. My new ISP hasn't made it as easy to self host.
- ComputerGuru 11y agoDoes anyone have a recommendation for a board that has 3-4x "native" SATA III? The AMD Opteron A1100 does, but it's meant for data centers and the $350 price point makes that clear.
- pella 11y agocheck SATA col : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_single-board_computers#I.2FO_interfaces_and_ports https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_single-board_com...
- jws 11y agoBe aware: some of the ARM boards with SATA have it as a USB to SATA adapter.
- im_down_w_otp 11y agoThe Minnowboard Max's have a SATA port. I have two of those little guys running as faux-HSM's. They're also excellent SBC's as long as you're willing to cross over the ~$100 mark.
- Nrsolis 11y agoI would love to hear more about this. I've been considering a similar use case for a while and haven't found anything really comparable to what is available commercially.
- ChrisDutrow 11y agoWhat's your use case?
- rwmj 11y agoGigabyte MP30-AR0. However, a fully specced system with case, 32GB RAM, SDD and so on will set you back US$1000+. It's a nice system however, the first server of any variety I have had which has fully working, stable IPMI. More about it on my blog: https://rwmj.wordpress.com/?s=mp30 https://rwmj.wordpress.com/?s=mp30
- mp3geek 11y agoAre there any opensource boards (similar to the Pi's), that have 2 (Gig) Ethernet ports?
- blacksmith_tb 11y agoThe new Beagleboard X15, but it isn't cheap... http://makezine.com/product-review/beaglebone-x15/ http://makezine.com/product-review/beaglebone-x15/
- davidovitch 11y agoNot exactly like the Pi's, and coming in with 5 Gig Ethernet ports is the Turris Omnia: https://omnia.turris.cz/en/ https://omnia.turris.cz/en/. It is intended to be a router, and not really a Pi clone though. However, it is (almost) completely open. You can order the board only for $119, but that option will disappear soon if I got it right.
- ZenoArrow 11y agoThe Turris Omnia looks amazing! It's got everything I'd want in a home router. Do you know why it's due to be discontinued?
- davidovitch 11y agoI participated in the crowd funding phase (waiting for my router to arrive later this year), and they have just updated their IndieGogo project page: https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/turris-omnia-hi-performance-open-source-router#/updates https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/turris-omnia-hi-performan... saying: At the same time, we will discontinue the "Board only" perk. The demand for this version was very low and it presents a complication for handling and logistics. Just to be clear, it is the board-only option that is being discontinued, not the router+case! The case looks pretty cool to me.
- thom_nic 11y agoBanana Pi R1 has 5 GbE ports! Also onboard Wi-Fi and SATA. http://www.banana-pi.org/r1.html http://www.banana-pi.org/r1.html
- otec 11y agoIm running C2 with a custom kernel with ZRAM, Linaro 5.3.1 toolchain, eMMC card. It's super fast. The only downside is that it's still 3.14 kernel. I'm hoping by end of April they will move to 4.4. That would be AWESOME!
- mhb 11y agoAre there any relatively cheap cameras with global shutters that work with these boards?
- ryan-c 11y agoI bought an ODROID-C1 about a year ago. I was very frustrated that it wasn't supported in mainline Linux kernels - only a vendor kernel that was fairly far behind, and didn't support what I had intended to use it for. I'm not sure what the situation is now with that board or Hardkernel's newer boards.
- Jasper_ 11y agoS805 mainline is a long process, but it's ongoing and happening with Amlogic's support and expertise. See: http://www.linux-meson.com/doku.php http://www.linux-meson.com/doku.php
- jandrese 11y agoIs there support for hardware video decoding on the ODROID? The Pi almost makes for a reasonable media center thanks to the hardware decoding, but I would like something with a little more oomph for the selection screen. This looks like it should be great for that, but I don't want something that's going to fall on its face when you try to decode video.
- Jasper_ 11y agoYep. It supports H.264 and HEVC hardware decoding. VP9 isn't in the S905 chipset, but is coming with the S905X chipset. https://github.com/hardkernel/linux/tree/odroidc2-3.14.y/drivers/amlogic/amports/arch/ucode https://github.com/hardkernel/linux/tree/odroidc2-3.14.y/dri...
- mwcampbell 11y agoKind of sad that a selection screen needs any oomph.
- morganvachon 11y agoI've got a Pi Zero, Pi B+, Pi 2, and Pi 3, and the Pi 3 is the only one that has virtually zero lag on the "selection screen" for Kodi and OpenElec. The Pi 2's lag is barely noticeable, but the BCM2835 in the B+ and Zero does lag significantly (though playback is flawless on all of them). That said, none of the Pis come close to a commercial set top box like the Roku 3 or Nvidia Shield TV, both of which are 60fps and buttery smooth.
- matt_wulfeck 11y agoThe real game-changer to me was the eMMC slot. SD cards are just so pitifully slow that it's unbearable to ever do any kind of disk IO on the pi. Even running apt-get update took forever.
- geerlingguy 11y agoI hope to get a card for the ODROID and run some of these tests again... Should've ordered it with my initial purchase so I don't have to spend another $7 on shipping! Judging by the built-in eMMC on the Orange Pi, it's a substantial I/O boost, at least 4-8x faster than even the best microSD card.
- avian 11y agoIt would also be interesting to know how eMMC compares to the SATA interface that used to be available on old Allwinner SoCs before they canned it. I bought a CubieTruck (Allwinner A20) and a SATA SSD drive simply because it seemed to be the only cheap ARM board with decent I/O performance.
- chx 11y agoExplain this to me as one hackernews reader to another: how come people are buying Allwinner stuff? Are you not aware of the repeated GPL violations or do you think undermining all of our work is not enough of a problem to warrant a boycott?
- geerlingguy 11y agoFor me, I bought one Allwinner board (Orange Pi Plus) just to see how the experience/software/etc. compared to the others... and it was a terrible experience. So that mixed with the iffy licensing[1], I don't see a bright future for their chips/mainstream acceptance. [1] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=9112094 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=9112094
- tagrun 11y ago
- hyc_symas 11y agoHe's going to have to revisit this when the Pine A64 ships. Also if you're willing to step up to the $99 price level, you should check out the Geekbox. RK3368 SOC, 8-core Cortex-A53 at 1.5GHz, 2GB RAM. http://www.geekbox.tv/ http://www.geekbox.tv/ I've been porting some stuff to it lately, along with a Ugoos UT4 (same chip) and my old Raspberry Pi. I've also pre-ordered an AMD Opteron A1100 board. http://lenovator.com/product/103.html http://lenovator.com/product/103.html Will be interesting to see how AMD's Cortex-A57 performs compared to these other Cortex-A53s.
- mmphosis 11y agoThe pi are good enough for my purposes. Depending on what you want to do, at the $99 price level I started looking at http://www.asrock.com/mb/Intel/N3150DC-ITX/ http://www.asrock.com/mb/Intel/N3150DC-ITX/
- morganvachon 11y agoI had the N3700 version of that board, and as a base for building a Windows 10 machine, it was very nice for the price. But Linux support for the onboard video was terrible, so I ultimately gave it to a friend who needed a Win10 media center PC. Once Intel starts officially supporting the Braswell/CherryView GPU in Linux (and it might by now; I got rid of it before the 4.4 kernel was released which supposedly supported it), it will make for an excellent, quiet Linux workstation or special purpose board.
- hyc_symas 11y agoMainly what I want to do is use ARM64 and abandon Intel, so I don't look at options like that. It's pretty clear that the x86 ISA has retarded the state of the art in computing for the past couple decades. The byzantine encodings make it mathematically impossible to write an optimal compiler for today's x86 instruction set. http://www.emulators.com/docs/nx05_vx64.htm http://www.emulators.com/docs/nx05_vx64.htm http://www.emulators.com/docs/nx06_rmw.htm http://www.emulators.com/docs/nx06_rmw.htm Of course, compiler writers still chase after greater performance, which leads to optimizations of questionable value (and demonstrable harm). http://blog.regehr.org/archives/1307 http://blog.regehr.org/archives/1307 Throw away all that cruft, use a clean instruction set, and compilers can go back to being small and fast, easily generating output that is also small and fast.
- im_down_w_otp 11y agoI bought five of these to do some Erlang, Rust, and Pony-lang distributed systems programming and testing on. Lack of mainline kernel support is a bit annoying, but that's being fixed with Linux 4.6 (which is getting S905 support). The only other issue I've run into is lack of RTC being a bit more trouble than I'd anticipated for some things. None of the stuff I'm building directly has any hard dependencies on linear time, because it wouldn't be much of a reliable or deterministic distributed system if it did ;-), but some underlying facilities that I depend on don't take very kindly to having their clocks reverted back in time on a regular basis. Those minor foibles aside... these are exceptional SBC's and very, very competitively priced. I'd probably donate a kidney for a proper SATA port on them though. :-)
- ChrisDutrow 11y agoNot sure if this is helpful, but you can get older, (but oddly still very powerful) xeon servers on Ebay for under $200. That's what I use for prototyping distributed systems. The advantage is the hardware architecture is the same you would use in a production system. I think maybe a lot of companies that maintain data centers are flooding the used market? For $250, I was able to configure 64gb RAM Xeon servers that clock in a little over 1/4 of the CPU speed of very high end brand new servers. ...not that I don't love Raspberry Pi, I considered using them, but prefer something where I won't run into compatibility issues for prototyping (and they have SATA ports).
- osivertsson 11y agoHaving five Xeon servers on your desk is not much fun when it comes to noise, but if you have some sort of server area yeah I agree you can get some good deals.
- Tiksi 11y agoThere's a ton of multi-node servers out there for dirt cheap. That way you only need one noisy server on your desk, or you can hide it away somewhere. I'm a fan of the c6100(ish) servers that have been getting offloaded on ebay lately: http://www.ebay.com/itm/Dell-XS23-SC-Cloud-Server-4-node-8x-QC-L5420-2-5Ghz-96GB-C6100-Style-/191834473161 http://www.ebay.com/itm/Dell-XS23-SC-Cloud-Server-4-node-8x-... http://www.ebay.com/itm/Dell-C6100-C6105-Cloud-Server-6x-1-8GHz-2419-Hex-Core-48GB-RAM-3x-500GB-HDD/381299776313 http://www.ebay.com/itm/Dell-C6100-C6105-Cloud-Server-6x-1-8...
- intrasight 11y agoI purchased an ODROID a couple years ago and got nowhere with it due to a lack of support. They had like one developer and over-committed and under-delivered. I'd never buy one again.
- rcarmo 11y agoI've been running an ODROID-U2 for three years[1] now, and can't say I've had any real problems - still running Ubuntu 14.04 wonderfully. What was the model you got? [1]: http://taoofmac.com/space/blog/2013/02/10/1230 http://taoofmac.com/space/blog/2013/02/10/1230
- intrasight 11y agoThe one that stands out is the OpenCV library that never materialized. Another was video drivers. Best approach is to be your own judge and go look at their support forum.
- sorenjan 11y agoHow come there aren't any Intel Atom based single board computers at a similar price point? These are basically phone or tablet class hardware, and if you go to any of the chinese stores, like Ali express or Banggood, there's plenty of cheap Atom tablets with Windows and Android dual boot. Wouldn't an x86 board be much easier to use with Linux and all sorts of drivers?
- tavert 11y agoThere is http://www.engadget.com/2016/01/22/intel-compute-stick-2016-review/ http://www.engadget.com/2016/01/22/intel-compute-stick-2016-...
- sorenjan 11y ago$159 isn't exactly a similar price point, and it's not designed to be used as a headless server, like a simple NAS. And how would you use any GPIO for sensors? There are tablets on Banggood that costs about half of what the Compute stick costs, and that's with a battery and a touch display.
- tavert 11y agoThe Edison's a closer comparison in terms of target market. If you have source, porting to ARM isn't hard enough to make Intel boards serious competitors in this space. If you don't have source, you're more likely to need to use "Windows IoT" or whatever awful thing they're trying, rather than Linux.
- ChrisDutrow 11y agoI was wondering the same thing. Maybe Intel doesn't want it's Atom brand "cheapened" or something? Or maybe those tablets are selling at a loss?
- imaginenore 11y agoJust get a mini-itx board on eBay or a board-cpu combo: http://www.ebay.com/itm/Biostar-Mother-Board-A68I-E350-DELUXE-Mini-ITX-CPU-Combo-Brand-New-Board-/262279282535 http://www.ebay.com/itm/Biostar-Mother-Board-A68I-E350-DELUX... http://www.ebay.com/itm/Dell-Optiplex-745-USFF-Ultra-Small-Form-System-Board-Motherboard-PK096-CN-0PK096-/272153998996 http://www.ebay.com/itm/Dell-Optiplex-745-USFF-Ultra-Small-F... http://www.ebay.com/itm/Intel-DH61AG-Desktop-Board-DDR3-Thin-Mini-ITX-LGA1155-Refurbished-Board-Only-/182046976246 http://www.ebay.com/itm/Intel-DH61AG-Desktop-Board-DDR3-Thin... And the CPUs are cheap too: http://www.ebay.com/itm/Intel-Pentium-Dual-Core-Processor-G630-2-7-Ghz-3-MB-Cache-LGA-1155-/111947799803 http://www.ebay.com/itm/Intel-Pentium-Dual-Core-Processor-G6... http://www.ebay.com/itm/QTY-1x-INTEL-Celeron-CPU-G550-2-6GHZ-2MB-LGA1155-SR061-/131747970837 http://www.ebay.com/itm/QTY-1x-INTEL-Celeron-CPU-G550-2-6GHZ... http://www.ebay.com/itm/Intel-Pentium-G2030-3GHz-3M-Cache-Dual-Core-CPU-Processor-LGA1155-/201545162114 http://www.ebay.com/itm/Intel-Pentium-G2030-3GHz-3M-Cache-Du...
- xedarius 11y agoI've owned a XU4 for over a year now. It's been a great piece of kit (once I disabled the fan that is). For me the biggest advantage over the Pi is the extra memory. Especially if you plan to develop any sort of Java services.
- jan0e 11y agoI would like to use the ODROID C2 as a media player. The video and network capabilities are looking quite promising. I can't find much about the supported audio modes. Does anyone know if audio passthrough via HDMI is supported? Does the platform even need to support it or is it just a software thing and Kodi can do it anyway?
- crudbug 11y agoAny Hardkernel folks here ? I want to know how much cost saving can be achieved for a barebone C3 with only 1G NIC & may be USB 3 , having this version will be good for making clusters. $20 would be very good number.
- k3d3 11y agoI think they'd have to use a different base board - the C2 uses an Amlogic S905, which as far as I know doesn't support USB3.
- panosv 11y agoNetworking comparison of RPi B+, RPi 2, RPi 3, Odroic C1+, Banana Pi, and Utilite Standard: https://netbeez.net/2016/03/17/raspberry-pi-3-iperf/ https://netbeez.net/2016/03/17/raspberry-pi-3-iperf/