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It's good to be cautious when people say they believe in "democracy" or "communism". (Does democracy mean killing people for billionaires and their 4-year king?

It's good to be cautious when people say they believe in "democracy" or "communism". (Does democracy mean killing people for billionaires and their 4-year king? Serious democracy proponents must say things like "bottom-up democracy." Same with communism: does it mean marxism/maoism/leninism/stalinism?) Anyway, anarchists generally strive towards communism, if that means an advanced future society where you're free from boss-subordination, and some don't have to be "poor" to scare everyone else into obedience. And anarchists don't bomb people, unlike adherents of every other political philosophy in the last decades. Certainly the US is always bombing people. Even Bernie Sanders supports it.

mcantelon 11y ago
Anarchists don't generally strive towards communism because they recognize what history shows: communist states are even less accountable than modern oligarchal democracy.
- calibraxis 11y ago
  Communist "state" is an oxymoron: "the communist society, which is a socioeconomic order structured upon the common ownership of the means of production and the absence of social classes, money, and the state." (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Communism https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Communism) Please google these basic terms before you engage in character assassination. As you did with Klabnik. (On topics like this, HN comments don't even rise to the factual rigor of YouTube comments.)
  - mcantelon 11y ago
    How does theoretical common ownership of the state mean a state doesn't exist? Do you have any examples of this theoretical non-state communist society? Has it ever existed at any scale?
    - calibraxis 11y ago
      These are among the most common anarchism 101 questions. FAQs exist; why not google for yourself? (Or speaking of capitalism, pay someone to educate you rather than expect uncompensated labor. I've done enough unpaid work resulting from your character assassination.)
      - mcantelon 11y ago
        "Educate yourself" seems to be a fashionable way of dodging difficult questions.
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calibraxis 11y ago
(Quick clarification: "advanced future society" is misleading. For instance, consider primitivists.)

mcantelon 11y ago

Anarchists don't generally strive towards communism because they recognize what history shows: communist states are even less accountable than modern oligarchal democracy.

calibraxis 11y ago
Communist "state" is an oxymoron: "the communist society, which is a socioeconomic order structured upon the common ownership of the means of production and the absence of social classes, money, and the state." (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Communism https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Communism) Please google these basic terms before you engage in character assassination. As you did with Klabnik. (On topics like this, HN comments don't even rise to the factual rigor of YouTube comments.)
- mcantelon 11y ago
  How does theoretical common ownership of the state mean a state doesn't exist? Do you have any examples of this theoretical non-state communist society? Has it ever existed at any scale?
  - calibraxis 11y ago
    These are among the most common anarchism 101 questions. FAQs exist; why not google for yourself? (Or speaking of capitalism, pay someone to educate you rather than expect uncompensated labor. I've done enough unpaid work resulting from your character assassination.)
    - mcantelon 11y ago
      "Educate yourself" seems to be a fashionable way of dodging difficult questions.

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calibraxis 11y ago

(Quick clarification: "advanced future society" is misleading. For instance, consider primitivists.)