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If your conference will dis-invite / "de-platform" people based on their opinion about topic {foo}, you are in fact hosting a conference about {foo}, regardless

If your conference will dis-invite / "de-platform" people based on their opinion about topic {foo}, you are in fact hosting a conference about {foo}, regardless of what your name, official agenda, or spokespeople say. Kudos to LambdaConf for actually keeping on focus in the face of dissent.

hythloday 11y ago
Well, this works the other way around too, right? If you invite, or accept applications from, someone who is primarily noted for {bar}, then whatever your name, official agenda, or spokespeople say, you are now hosting a conference tolerant or supportive of {bar}. You seem to be making a declaration that acts are inherently political, and I'm all for that. It's just that the standard works both ways.
- EdHominem 11y ago
  The participants were picked in a blinded process, and the participant in question agreed to leave their personal politics at the door as they would at work. So not in this case.
EdHominem 11y ago
Kudos are actually due to all the normal people, outside the echo-chamber. Who not only declined to participate in fear or politics but in many cases wrote movingly about the value of open access.
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TabAtkins 11y ago
I mean, okay, maybe, but that just means that they'd be hosting a conference about "nazis suck" and hey, I'm okay with that. That's a message I can get behind.
- ubertaco 11y ago
  So what you're saying is, you're cool with discrimination, so long as it's not against you. So when someone decides to hold a dev conference but chooses to disallow any gay/lesbian developers, is that also totally okay?
  - zahmahkibo 11y ago
    Yes, I am perfectly okay with discriminating against Nazis. Since when is ALL discrimination bad? I discriminate against shitty people all the time, and so do you. Don't even pretend you don't, no one will believe you.
    - ubertaco 11y ago
      >and so do you. Don't even pretend you don't, no one will believe you. You're projecting a bit. I try hard -- consciously -- not to shut down and shut out people who need grace as much as I do (either more or less externally-visibly). Your own code of ethics is not universal. There are people who think and operate differently from you. Which is exactly the point of not discriminating whenever it's avoidable.
      - zahmahkibo 11y ago
        Your code of grace is also not universal and is almost certainly the minority.
- 13thLetter 11y ago
  What if they wanted to host a conference about technology? Are they allowed to do that?
  - DrDimension 11y ago
    My god, could you imagine such a thing taking place?! It would be the end of all things.
zahmahkibo 11y ago
All life is political. Sorry that hurts your feelings.

hythloday 11y ago

Well, this works the other way around too, right? If you invite, or accept applications from, someone who is primarily noted for {bar}, then whatever your name, official agenda, or spokespeople say, you are now hosting a conference tolerant or supportive of {bar}. You seem to be making a declaration that acts are inherently political, and I'm all for that. It's just that the standard works both ways.

EdHominem 11y ago
The participants were picked in a blinded process, and the participant in question agreed to leave their personal politics at the door as they would at work. So not in this case.

EdHominem 11y ago

Kudos are actually due to all the normal people, outside the echo-chamber. Who not only declined to participate in fear or politics but in many cases wrote movingly about the value of open access.

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TabAtkins 11y ago

I mean, okay, maybe, but that just means that they'd be hosting a conference about "nazis suck" and hey, I'm okay with that. That's a message I can get behind.

ubertaco 11y ago
So what you're saying is, you're cool with discrimination, so long as it's not against you. So when someone decides to hold a dev conference but chooses to disallow any gay/lesbian developers, is that also totally okay?
- zahmahkibo 11y ago
  Yes, I am perfectly okay with discriminating against Nazis. Since when is ALL discrimination bad? I discriminate against shitty people all the time, and so do you. Don't even pretend you don't, no one will believe you.
  - ubertaco 11y ago
    >and so do you. Don't even pretend you don't, no one will believe you. You're projecting a bit. I try hard -- consciously -- not to shut down and shut out people who need grace as much as I do (either more or less externally-visibly). Your own code of ethics is not universal. There are people who think and operate differently from you. Which is exactly the point of not discriminating whenever it's avoidable.
    - zahmahkibo 11y ago
      Your code of grace is also not universal and is almost certainly the minority.
13thLetter 11y ago
What if they wanted to host a conference about technology? Are they allowed to do that?
- DrDimension 11y ago
  My god, could you imagine such a thing taking place?! It would be the end of all things.

zahmahkibo 11y ago

All life is political. Sorry that hurts your feelings.