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Oh, I love it. Not because it's good, it's not, it's an incoherent mess; but it's a great incoherent mess. By which I mean that it tries so hard and fails so ba

Oh, I love it. Not because it's good, it's not, it's an incoherent mess; but it's a great incoherent mess. By which I mean that it tries so hard and fails so badly I end up somehow seeing through it to the vision of the film Lynch was trying to make, which is a masterpiece. It's fascinating. And there are moments of brilliance to it. The Guild Navigators! The Emperor's Court! The spacecraft design! I even love the poorly matted and ludicrously scaled sandworms, which convey a sense of grandeur that modern films somehow have trouble with. Oh, and Toto's soundtrack is great. Ah, here we go. David Lynch's sandworm ride: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ld2DMsyy0go https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ld2DMsyy0go Scifi channel's sandworm ride: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WVqXE9ZY5wk https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WVqXE9ZY5wk Which of those is more fun? I'd rather have a glorious failure like Dune over the polished insult that was Avatar any day. Next I will explain why Van Helsing is one of my favourite films...

eveningcoffee 11y ago
Next I will explain why _Van Helsing_ is one of my favourite films... That would be interesting.
- venomsnake 11y ago
  Kate Beckinsale at her most beautiful and full auto Gatling crossbow.
  - david-given 11y ago
    Also vampires, werewolves, Frankenstein's Monster, the Brides of Dracula, Mr. Jeckyll and Doctor Hyde, a secret religious order with steampunk antivampire Bond gadgets, an excellent soundtrack, decent production quality, and some surprisingly good performances with just the right amount of scenery chewing (which in the case of the actor who plays Dracula is AS MUCH AS IS HUMANLY POSSIBLE). To my mind it neatly hits the sweet spot where there's just the right amount of ludicrousness to be fun but which is then played completely straight, so it doesn't quite cross the border into camp. The result is something which I find enormously entertaining. I suspect that leads had a lot of fun making this. Bear in mind it did get 23% on Rotten Tomatoes, so YMMV. (Obviously everybody except me must be wrong.)
johnchristopher 11y ago
> Next I will explain why Van Helsing is one of my favourite films... I hope it wasn't sarcasm because you made me look for it on Netflix :).
secabeen 11y ago
For me, the Lynch one is better because it was clearly filmed in a desert. The SciFi one is just too obviously a soundstage.
- ArkyBeagle 11y ago
  It was the CGI equivalent of matting for nearly the whole movie. Sill a very nice looking but unnatural film. Which seems appropriate. I think Lynch's characterizations were superior. But the SciFi one was long enough to do a better turn to the book.
cgh 11y ago
One of the YouTube comments on the SciFi version sums it up best for me: "Dune, a miniseries from Roger Corman"

eveningcoffee 11y ago

Next I will explain why _Van Helsing_ is one of my favourite films... That would be interesting.

venomsnake 11y ago
Kate Beckinsale at her most beautiful and full auto Gatling crossbow.
- david-given 11y ago
  Also vampires, werewolves, Frankenstein's Monster, the Brides of Dracula, Mr. Jeckyll and Doctor Hyde, a secret religious order with steampunk antivampire Bond gadgets, an excellent soundtrack, decent production quality, and some surprisingly good performances with just the right amount of scenery chewing (which in the case of the actor who plays Dracula is AS MUCH AS IS HUMANLY POSSIBLE). To my mind it neatly hits the sweet spot where there's just the right amount of ludicrousness to be fun but which is then played completely straight, so it doesn't quite cross the border into camp. The result is something which I find enormously entertaining. I suspect that leads had a lot of fun making this. Bear in mind it did get 23% on Rotten Tomatoes, so YMMV. (Obviously everybody except me must be wrong.)

johnchristopher 11y ago

> Next I will explain why Van Helsing is one of my favourite films... I hope it wasn't sarcasm because you made me look for it on Netflix :).

secabeen 11y ago

For me, the Lynch one is better because it was clearly filmed in a desert. The SciFi one is just too obviously a soundstage.

ArkyBeagle 11y ago
It was the CGI equivalent of matting for nearly the whole movie. Sill a very nice looking but unnatural film. Which seems appropriate. I think Lynch's characterizations were superior. But the SciFi one was long enough to do a better turn to the book.

cgh 11y ago

One of the YouTube comments on the SciFi version sums it up best for me: "Dune, a miniseries from Roger Corman"