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You'd think that someone could just come out and say exactly which of his views are so terrible, instead of pointing at his entire multiple-book-length blog and

You'd think that someone could just come out and say exactly which of his views are so terrible, instead of pointing at his entire multiple-book-length blog and "wow just wow"ing.

5ilv3r 11y ago
That would not help solve the issue at hand. In fact that would make it worse.
- fiatmoney 11y ago
  I'm not saying the organizers should. As far as I can tell his detractors are reluctant to do anything but point and sputter nonspecifically.
crispyambulance 11y ago
Here's it in a nutshell... http://techcrunch.com/2013/11/22/geeks-for-monarchy/ http://techcrunch.com/2013/11/22/geeks-for-monarchy/
vitno 11y ago
The character of Moldbug (which I don't even know if it is actually what the author truly believes, it was always designed as a pen name) is a neo-reactionary. Ex: He is definitely a racist, with the belief of genetic differences in attitude that contributed to slavery. [1] Now, I don't like those beliefs at all. I do think that LC made the right decision though. Inclusiveness is a good policy, and no matter how certain more authoritarianly inclined progressives are spinning this, that's what this is. Assuming no one is threatened, and he isn't promoting his politics, he should have a chance of going through the (anonymized!) entry process and talking about the really weird and awesome Urbit. [1] http://unqualified-reservations.blogspot.fr/2009/07/why-carlyle-matters.html?m=1 http://unqualified-reservations.blogspot.fr/2009/07/why-carl... edit: One of my main philosophical issues with Moldbug (besides the repugnancy), is that he is internally inconsistent. He might refute that later on. I dunno, he's spewed out literally tens of thousands of pages of text.
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- cespare 11y ago
  > I do think that SL made the right decision though. I assume you mean LambdaConf, not StrongLoop.
- zenogais 11y ago
  As a note the original article for this thread is about LambdaConf. StrangeLoop is the conference that chose to ban this particular speaker. I assume by SL you mean LC?
  - vitno 11y ago
    ahh. Now I see where the confusion is. Yes. I do mean LC.
- someguydave 11y ago
  It's likely that many on Hacker News join you in your condemnation of 'right-thinking' persons who happened to have lived in the past. An unsolicited word of advice to this audience: challenge yourself by considering the worldview of your forefathers before summarily condemning them.
lhnz 11y ago
This is a good primer on "neoreaction" [0]. To tell you the truth, what makes it a good primer is that it doesn't begin to describe the so-called solutions to democracy (this is where it gets weird/awful, as you see people recommending aristocracy, autocracy and monarchy, etc). [0] http://status451.com/2016/02/25/what-is-neoreaction/ http://status451.com/2016/02/25/what-is-neoreaction/
- pkinsky 11y ago
  Thanks for the link. Neoreaction seems superficially similar to Marxism, in that it makes some interesting criticisms but would probably lead to millions of deaths if actually implemented.
  - crispyambulance 11y ago
    There is nothing even remotely similar to Marxism about it (and it wasn't "the implementation" of Marxism that lead to millions of deaths). Neoreaction is just another form of asshole-ism in the blogosphere. People have strong reactions to it and thus its proponents should not be surprised when their belief colors other peoples' judgement of them when they want to talk about something unrelated at a conference.

You'd think that someone could just come out and say exactly which of his views are so terrible, instead of pointing at his entire multiple-book-length blog and "wow just wow"ing.

5ilv3r 11y ago

That would not help solve the issue at hand. In fact that would make it worse.

fiatmoney 11y ago
I'm not saying the organizers should. As far as I can tell his detractors are reluctant to do anything but point and sputter nonspecifically.

crispyambulance 11y ago

Here's it in a nutshell... http://techcrunch.com/2013/11/22/geeks-for-monarchy/ http://techcrunch.com/2013/11/22/geeks-for-monarchy/

vitno 11y ago

The character of Moldbug (which I don't even know if it is actually what the author truly believes, it was always designed as a pen name) is a neo-reactionary. Ex: He is definitely a racist, with the belief of genetic differences in attitude that contributed to slavery. [1] Now, I don't like those beliefs at all. I do think that LC made the right decision though. Inclusiveness is a good policy, and no matter how certain more authoritarianly inclined progressives are spinning this, that's what this is. Assuming no one is threatened, and he isn't promoting his politics, he should have a chance of going through the (anonymized!) entry process and talking about the really weird and awesome Urbit. [1] http://unqualified-reservations.blogspot.fr/2009/07/why-carlyle-matters.html?m=1 http://unqualified-reservations.blogspot.fr/2009/07/why-carl... edit: One of my main philosophical issues with Moldbug (besides the repugnancy), is that he is internally inconsistent. He might refute that later on. I dunno, he's spewed out literally tens of thousands of pages of text.

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cespare 11y ago
> I do think that SL made the right decision though. I assume you mean LambdaConf, not StrongLoop.
zenogais 11y ago
As a note the original article for this thread is about LambdaConf. StrangeLoop is the conference that chose to ban this particular speaker. I assume by SL you mean LC?
- vitno 11y ago
  ahh. Now I see where the confusion is. Yes. I do mean LC.
someguydave 11y ago
It's likely that many on Hacker News join you in your condemnation of 'right-thinking' persons who happened to have lived in the past. An unsolicited word of advice to this audience: challenge yourself by considering the worldview of your forefathers before summarily condemning them.

lhnz 11y ago

This is a good primer on "neoreaction" [0]. To tell you the truth, what makes it a good primer is that it doesn't begin to describe the so-called solutions to democracy (this is where it gets weird/awful, as you see people recommending aristocracy, autocracy and monarchy, etc). [0] http://status451.com/2016/02/25/what-is-neoreaction/ http://status451.com/2016/02/25/what-is-neoreaction/

pkinsky 11y ago
Thanks for the link. Neoreaction seems superficially similar to Marxism, in that it makes some interesting criticisms but would probably lead to millions of deaths if actually implemented.
- crispyambulance 11y ago
  There is nothing even remotely similar to Marxism about it (and it wasn't "the implementation" of Marxism that lead to millions of deaths). Neoreaction is just another form of asshole-ism in the blogosphere. People have strong reactions to it and thus its proponents should not be surprised when their belief colors other peoples' judgement of them when they want to talk about something unrelated at a conference.