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> Every web app I've used has required a painful sign-up process, which is usually where I bail out of the process. Way more friction than an app store install.

> Every web app I've used has required a painful sign-up process, which is usually where I bail out of the process. Way more friction than an app store install. That signup process can be made better. Nothing fixes the pains of having to download a large app over a potentially slow/spotty network, sacrifice an unknown amount of privacy, then having to twiddle a variable amount of options to get the thing to stop sending you notifications about every single action or event, then after a week of use, having to re-download the large app again because of updates.

task_queue 11y ago
With today's web apps, I can only sympathize with the examples that deal with file size. The others still apply to using web services.
kalleboo 11y ago
> Nothing fixes the pains of having to download a large app over a potentially slow/spotty network You mean like the 12 MB it takes to load a Google Sheet? At least with a native app, once it's downloaded you know it's there and it won't go into an indeterminate state if you happen to try to use a feature that hasn't been loaded yet. > sacrifice an unknown amount of privacy, then having to twiddle a variable amount of options to get the thing to stop sending you notifications about every single action or event These are not issues when you have iOS's permissions model
- treehau5 11y ago
  > These are not issues when you have iOS's permissions model Which is 13.9% market share currently. Unless Apple wants to make budget devices (they don't), this world does not exist, and it won't any time soon. > You mean like the 12 MB it takes to load a Google Sheet? Although I realize we are speaking in hypotheticals, and generalizing the type of apps people use (I realize there are smaller ~2 meg apps), the average size of an iOS app is 20mb, and the average android app is 7mb. You pointed out an exceptional use case, not the most common.

task_queue 11y ago

With today's web apps, I can only sympathize with the examples that deal with file size. The others still apply to using web services.

kalleboo 11y ago

> Nothing fixes the pains of having to download a large app over a potentially slow/spotty network You mean like the 12 MB it takes to load a Google Sheet? At least with a native app, once it's downloaded you know it's there and it won't go into an indeterminate state if you happen to try to use a feature that hasn't been loaded yet. > sacrifice an unknown amount of privacy, then having to twiddle a variable amount of options to get the thing to stop sending you notifications about every single action or event These are not issues when you have iOS's permissions model

treehau5 11y ago
> These are not issues when you have iOS's permissions model Which is 13.9% market share currently. Unless Apple wants to make budget devices (they don't), this world does not exist, and it won't any time soon. > You mean like the 12 MB it takes to load a Google Sheet? Although I realize we are speaking in hypotheticals, and generalizing the type of apps people use (I realize there are smaller ~2 meg apps), the average size of an iOS app is 20mb, and the average android app is 7mb. You pointed out an exceptional use case, not the most common.