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Good tips. I love my job right now, salary is good, work is not too hard, I have time to learn new skills. However, one thing that is frustrating is that ther

Good tips. I love my job right now, salary is good, work is not too hard, I have time to learn new skills. However, one thing that is frustrating is that there are those on my team that refuse to work and management never disciplines them for any reason. They are allowed to just collect a paycheck, while only putting in about 2 hours of actual work every week. This is mentioned in the article. Any tips for me? Just suck it up and try to do good at my job is what I've been doing for the last 3 years, but sometimes it gets frustrating.

jswinghammer 17y ago
That's been every job I've ever been at. I think employers are just too nice sometimes. It works in your favor when something comes up and you need them to be understanding but it's hard to stay motivated sometimes when you either need to clean up after someone's mess or know that someone just isn't doing anything. With some people I'd rather them stay out of the way than have to fix the build every day or redo pages they did because they did something crazy.
- illumin8 17y ago
  Good point... sometimes it's better not to get much work from some people. They do more harm than good.
exit 17y ago
what kind of work do you do?
- illumin8 17y ago
  Enterprise system architect - basically I design Oracle RAC database clusters, SAN storage, and VMware systems. I also do SAN administration and Linux administration. Like I said, I love my job, but it can be frustrating sometimes when everyone just expects "he'll do it for me."
radu_floricica 17y ago
As an occasional employer, I can tell you people who like to work are appreciated way beyond their actual ability. If you're one of them, it's too good an advantage to give up. Now, there are several problems with this. First is that it's simply not as easy - what the others do has a real effect on your motivation. Your manager may not be also your employer, so he may not have good enough reason to appreciate you. Being too conscientious and good for a job may keep you in that job forever. Etcetera. In the end, if you feel staying at this job prevents you from working as hard as you'd like, it's a valid reason to switch.
Angostura 17y ago
I'd have to ask, what's your line manager like, do you trust him/her? If so, tell them what you've just told us. In a previous life, I had to ask a developer to pull up his socks and come in on time, for just the reasons you outline - I didn't want the people who were working their socks off to start feeling aggrieved (I was starting to pick up some sotto voce grumbles). It's part of what management should do.
- illumin8 17y ago
  My manager is probably too soft and easygoing. I've asked him before why others that work on my team and have the same responsibilities don't do any actual work, and his response was "I'm perfectly happy with the amount of work he is doing." This may be one of those cases where departments keep 10% underachievers around just in case of cuts in the future. But yes, you are correct, it leaves those of us that do actual work feeling like things are unfair which is not a good environment.

jswinghammer 17y ago

That's been every job I've ever been at. I think employers are just too nice sometimes. It works in your favor when something comes up and you need them to be understanding but it's hard to stay motivated sometimes when you either need to clean up after someone's mess or know that someone just isn't doing anything. With some people I'd rather them stay out of the way than have to fix the build every day or redo pages they did because they did something crazy.

illumin8 17y ago
Good point... sometimes it's better not to get much work from some people. They do more harm than good.

exit 17y ago

what kind of work do you do?

illumin8 17y ago
Enterprise system architect - basically I design Oracle RAC database clusters, SAN storage, and VMware systems. I also do SAN administration and Linux administration. Like I said, I love my job, but it can be frustrating sometimes when everyone just expects "he'll do it for me."

radu_floricica 17y ago

As an occasional employer, I can tell you people who like to work are appreciated way beyond their actual ability. If you're one of them, it's too good an advantage to give up. Now, there are several problems with this. First is that it's simply not as easy - what the others do has a real effect on your motivation. Your manager may not be also your employer, so he may not have good enough reason to appreciate you. Being too conscientious and good for a job may keep you in that job forever. Etcetera. In the end, if you feel staying at this job prevents you from working as hard as you'd like, it's a valid reason to switch.

Angostura 17y ago

I'd have to ask, what's your line manager like, do you trust him/her? If so, tell them what you've just told us. In a previous life, I had to ask a developer to pull up his socks and come in on time, for just the reasons you outline - I didn't want the people who were working their socks off to start feeling aggrieved (I was starting to pick up some sotto voce grumbles). It's part of what management should do.

illumin8 17y ago
My manager is probably too soft and easygoing. I've asked him before why others that work on my team and have the same responsibilities don't do any actual work, and his response was "I'm perfectly happy with the amount of work he is doing." This may be one of those cases where departments keep 10% underachievers around just in case of cuts in the future. But yes, you are correct, it leaves those of us that do actual work feeling like things are unfair which is not a good environment.