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> ...“basically any cold medications that make you sleepy might contain anticholinergics, so stay away from drugs that make you sleepy.” NyQuil is an exception,

by arikrak 11y ago

> ...“basically any cold medications that make you sleepy might contain anticholinergics, so stay away from drugs that make you sleepy.” NyQuil is an exception, he said. It makes people sleepy, but does not contain an anti-cholinergic. Still, “if your solution for a sleep problem is a pill, a quick fix, do you want that?” Any drug taken for a long time could come with problems. Over the counter sleep medicines lose their effectiveness when taken regularly, so it people are less likely to do so (vs. taking such medicines for allergy relief). Also NyQuil contains doxylamine [1], which is an anticholinergic, and is listed with the other problematic medicines [2]. [1] https://www.google.com/search?q=nyquil%20active%20ingredients https://www.google.com/search?q=nyquil%20active%20ingredient... [2] http://www.agingbraincare.org/uploads/products/ACB_scale_-_legal_size.pdf http://www.agingbraincare.org/uploads/products/ACB_scale_-_l...

daodedickinson 11y ago
I wonder why NyQuil is outside of quotes. Did a professor of medicine really make such an unbelievable mistake? Let us not forget that this class of drugs (which includes diphenhydramine (Benadryl), scopolamine, and datura is called "deliriant". From Wikipedia: " The term was introduced by David F. Duncan and Robert S. Gold to distinguish these drugs from psychedelics and dissociatives, such as LSD and ketamine respectively, due to their primary effect of causing delirium, as opposed to the more lucid states produced by other hallucinogens (psychedelics and dissociatives)... The delirium produced is characterized by stupor, confusion, confabulation, and regression to "phantom" behaviors such as disrobing and plucking.[2] Other commonly reported behaviors include holding full conversations with imagined people, finishing a complex, multi-stage action (such as getting dressed) and then suddenly discovering one had not even begun yet, and being unable to recognize one's own reflection in a mirror." This is the expected behavior for someone who consumes about 500-700mg of diphenhydramine at once (the dose suggested on the package is usually 50mg). Benadryl is probably the most powerful hallucinogen known; it distorts the senses far more than even some of the most notorious illegal drugs and the reasons for its continued over-the-counter legality might make for an interesting book. Obviously it has healthy uses, and many deliriants have long-established religious uses in North America. The Serpent and the Rainbow and Passage of Darkness: The Ethnobiology of the Haitian Zombie are two books that explain how anticholinergic drugs are what create real-life zombies.
- pflats 11y ago
  >I wonder why NyQuil is outside of quotes. Did a professor of medicine really make such an unbelievable mistake? It's more likely the professor either talked about NyQuil in a follow-up question where the direct quote did not flow nicely, or expounded on it in much longer length than the author wanted to quote directly.
- ild 11y ago
  Benadryl trips are always bad. No abuse potential.
Raphmedia 11y ago
> Over the counter sleep medicines lose their effectiveness when taken regularly, so it people are less likely to do so I have known people that simply increased the dose.

by arikrak 11y ago

daodedickinson 11y ago

I wonder why NyQuil is outside of quotes. Did a professor of medicine really make such an unbelievable mistake? Let us not forget that this class of drugs (which includes diphenhydramine (Benadryl), scopolamine, and datura is called "deliriant". From Wikipedia: " The term was introduced by David F. Duncan and Robert S. Gold to distinguish these drugs from psychedelics and dissociatives, such as LSD and ketamine respectively, due to their primary effect of causing delirium, as opposed to the more lucid states produced by other hallucinogens (psychedelics and dissociatives)... The delirium produced is characterized by stupor, confusion, confabulation, and regression to "phantom" behaviors such as disrobing and plucking.[2] Other commonly reported behaviors include holding full conversations with imagined people, finishing a complex, multi-stage action (such as getting dressed) and then suddenly discovering one had not even begun yet, and being unable to recognize one's own reflection in a mirror." This is the expected behavior for someone who consumes about 500-700mg of diphenhydramine at once (the dose suggested on the package is usually 50mg). Benadryl is probably the most powerful hallucinogen known; it distorts the senses far more than even some of the most notorious illegal drugs and the reasons for its continued over-the-counter legality might make for an interesting book. Obviously it has healthy uses, and many deliriants have long-established religious uses in North America. The Serpent and the Rainbow and Passage of Darkness: The Ethnobiology of the Haitian Zombie are two books that explain how anticholinergic drugs are what create real-life zombies.

pflats 11y ago
>I wonder why NyQuil is outside of quotes. Did a professor of medicine really make such an unbelievable mistake? It's more likely the professor either talked about NyQuil in a follow-up question where the direct quote did not flow nicely, or expounded on it in much longer length than the author wanted to quote directly.
ild 11y ago
Benadryl trips are always bad. No abuse potential.

Raphmedia 11y ago

> Over the counter sleep medicines lose their effectiveness when taken regularly, so it people are less likely to do so I have known people that simply increased the dose.