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How about a blockchain-based NPM? Can't take all the computers down. Legal, shmegal.

• repomies69 11y ago
  Yep, but someone should implement that first. Package repositories have pretty much centralized control still, and will have for foreseeable future.
• ubernostrum 11y ago
  You can still be jailed for contempt of the order, though. "I've found a clever workaround for court orders" doesn't work around that bit.
  • iopq 11y ago
    OK, now tell me how you can remove this file from BitTorrent (it's Fedora 18 KDE) magnet:?xt=urn:btih:14f146cdfaef83951ca9d3ac647e18e1977d1367 I'll wait
    • ubernostrum 11y ago
      It's not about whether the removal is logistically possible, it's about whether a court can punish someone for failing to carry out the removal. Even when the former is actually impossible, a court could still punish for the latter. "Ha ha ha I use technology to cleverly show how futile your orders are" is not the kind of thing you want to say to a court with broad contempt powers.
      • toyg 11y ago
        If the "forbidden" action was previous to proceedings and carried out in good faith by unknown parties, it would be very hard to sanction anyone.
      • iopq 11y ago
        The court can't punish you for not being able to do the impossible. That's ludicrous. "We have shut down all of our servers, yes. We can't stop people from downloading this, no"
        • tangus 11y ago
          Pay damages, then.
          • naasking 11y ago
            Pay damages because someone else uploaded something by accident and you can't fix it? It doesn't work like that.
            • fixermark 11y ago
              It only doesn't work like that in the context of safe harbor laws. If the safe harbor law protection doesn't apply, and the defendant is responsible for the illegal behavior, the defendant can absolutely be held legally liable and pay the legally-appropriate punishment.
          • iopq 11y ago
            Why should you pay the damages for something that's not on your server?
        • Retra 11y ago
          That's because all laws make sense and all people who enforce and judge them are understand this.
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  • bryanrasmussen 11y ago
    that's why we'll kurtzweill ourselves into the computers that can't be shut down!
  • kilotaras 11y ago
    Would that work if you did it before the court order?
    • esquivalience 11y ago
      No.
  • Fiahil 11y ago
    Just live outside of the United States, and you'll be fine.
    • rmc 11y ago
      Yeah, there's literally no other courts outside the USA.
    • coldtea 11y ago
      Yeah, because the US doesn't have treaties with most of the world...
• mdpopescu 11y ago
  Or something like http://ipfs.io/ http://ipfs.io/
  • repomies691 11y ago
    IFPS is cool, however pretty far away from being usable as a package management system... Some package management system could use it as a backend, though.
    • NoGravitas 11y ago
      In fact, gx[0] is such a package management system. [0]: https://github.com/whyrusleeping/gx https://github.com/whyrusleeping/gx
    • lugg 11y ago
      Huh NPM already handles git? http://ipfs.io/ipfs/QmTkzDwWqPbnAh5YiV5VwcTLnGdwSNsNTn2aDxdXBFca7D/example#/ipfs/QmQwAP9vFjbCtKvD8RkJdCvPHqLQjZfW7Mqbbqx18zd8j7/git/readme.md http://ipfs.io/ipfs/QmTkzDwWqPbnAh5YiV5VwcTLnGdwSNsNTn2aDxdX...
• BillinghamJ 11y ago
  npm already replicates to hundreds of other servers. Right now, it is practically infeasible to actually remove packages permanently.
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