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The real question is: where is the criminal investigation? This breaks so many laws it's not funny. And the kid originally being disciplined at school for som
by ErrantX 17y ago
The real question is: where is the criminal investigation?
This breaks so many laws it's not funny.
And the kid originally being disciplined at school for something he did at home.
It's the first time for a while news like this has made me feel physically sick! Lock them up :(
- Skriticos 17y agoThis was the first thing I was asking myself too. AFAIK only a limited group of people is allowed to do such a thing (law enforcement) and only if the have a court warrant for it. If they really pulled this off, then they are in very deep shit..
- electromagnetic 17y agoWell not only could every board member potentially face criminal charges, similar for every teacher who was in on this, but the entire school (or multiple if it's owned by a group) is financially liable, likely to the tune of tens to hundreds of thousands per person. This shit could easily shut this school down, and if that's the least that happens it's a grand achievement.
- steveklabnik 17y ago> And the kid originally being disciplined at school for something he did at home. This is pretty standard practice. Schools have all kinds of 'code of conduct' things that can get you in trouble for things that didn't happen on school grounds.
- Confusion 17y agoThis is pretty standard practice. In the US. Certainly not in Europe.
- ErrantX 17y agoI know; but in his own home! It's psychopathic.
- steveklabnik 17y agoOh, I agree. Just don't think this is a one-off kind of thing.
- ErrantX 17y agoIndeed. Perhaps (hopefully) any outcome from this will spark off a review of such policies.
- cgranade 17y agoWhat scares me is the kind of review that will likely happen isn't going to be one that emphasizes the rights of schoolchildren, but that emphasizes how schools should modulate their activities to stay within the letter, if not the spirit, of the law. For anything substantial to change would require a fairly fundamental reexamination of the role of the school system in the private lives of students.
- steveklabnik 17y agoChildren's rights are one of those funny things... kids can't vote, and nobody's going to win against parents' frothing mouths about how they're not 'keeping kids safe' and other grandstanding shenanigans. I wouldn't expect much to change.
- cgranade 17y agoHave those "code of conduct" policies ever seen a direct court challenge?
- steveklabnik 17y agoI don't know. Children's rights are a funny thing in this country...
- jules 17y ago> things that can get you in trouble for things that didn't happen on school grounds What?! There is no way that kind of policy would be tolerated here. What is the logic behind this?
- DanielBMarkham 17y agoAgreed. An arm of the government inserting hundreds or thousands surveillance devices in people's homes without their consent? I can't imagine getting more upset. In fact, the story is almost too perfect. It wouldn't surprise me to find out either it's bogus or big parts of it have been left out. But if the skeleton of this story holds true, somebody needs to go to jail. Not get fired. Not get fined. But go to jail. For a very. long. time.
- cgranade 17y agoAs I've said elsewhere, and as Cory Doctrow mentioned in his write-up, this kind of complete invasion trains children to become adults who do not value privacy and who do not understand why it is important to be vigilant against just this kind of thing. For many of the children growing up under this kind of privacy-less regime, there is nothing absurd about the NSA's warrantless wiretapping programs, nothing unconscionable about the Total Information Awareness office and the PATRIOT Act. Guilt becomes the default, and the state's actions in obtaining evidence of guilt are justified under this kind of an inverted (perverted?) worldview.