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You don't think someone like Madoff deserves the worst punishment we have available for current non-violent offenders? He destroyed thousands of lives, ruined t

by levemi 11y ago

You don't think someone like Madoff deserves the worst punishment we have available for current non-violent offenders? He destroyed thousands of lives, ruined their savings and their ability to retire. Many people will probably have a far worse quality end of life experience because of him. The opportunities for the children of his victims is much diminished. It was an incredibly damaging crime and he's in prison right now bragging about it still. He's not ashamed of all the hurt he's caused. You think someone like that shouldn't be in prison? Ok, well if you do I still disagree. That guy belongs where he is for the time he has to be there for.

jasonjei 11y ago
>You don't think someone like Madoff deserves the worst punishment we have available for current non-violent offenders? No, no--I am merely asking and want to know the purpose of these long terms. I don't believe I mentioned Madoff in particular but in general with respect to things like drug distribution, computer hacking, etc. As I said in the beginning, I believe there is some price to be paid. My confusion is why we sentence some people to 1 year or to 10 years in prison for a non-violent crime, and then some for 200 years. So my observation of the non-violent criminal justice is that punishment is not meted out in a deterministic fashion, even if it's intended to rehabilitate. While if you are convicted of killing somebody, it is almost guaranteed you will lose your freedom indefinitely. I know of someone who was accused of hacking a computer network without actually producing much harm aside from snooping at info, yet he was asked to serve 2 years. I'm not educated or well-informed in these aspects. You seem to be mistaking my asking of the question with advocating a position. I apologize if I have offended you.
- levemi 11y ago
  You didn't at all offend me, I was just making a counter-argument. I also am not well informed on these things.

by levemi 11y ago

jasonjei 11y ago

>You don't think someone like Madoff deserves the worst punishment we have available for current non-violent offenders? No, no--I am merely asking and want to know the purpose of these long terms. I don't believe I mentioned Madoff in particular but in general with respect to things like drug distribution, computer hacking, etc. As I said in the beginning, I believe there is some price to be paid. My confusion is why we sentence some people to 1 year or to 10 years in prison for a non-violent crime, and then some for 200 years. So my observation of the non-violent criminal justice is that punishment is not meted out in a deterministic fashion, even if it's intended to rehabilitate. While if you are convicted of killing somebody, it is almost guaranteed you will lose your freedom indefinitely. I know of someone who was accused of hacking a computer network without actually producing much harm aside from snooping at info, yet he was asked to serve 2 years. I'm not educated or well-informed in these aspects. You seem to be mistaking my asking of the question with advocating a position. I apologize if I have offended you.

levemi 11y ago
You didn't at all offend me, I was just making a counter-argument. I also am not well informed on these things.