To me UBI is tied to the commons, not e state. So would be perectly fine with an implementation that makes it clear the the state has no say in it. But then ag

To me UBI is tied to the commons, not e state. So would be perectly fine with an implementation that makes it clear the the state has no say in it. But then again I don't advocate the B in UBI, I'm content with any amount that is fair and efficient. If the state want to add a complementary redistribution scheme on top of that, it's fine, but there should be a component they can't touch. For example, one component might be in hands of the central banks as a way to control inflation and such. Another component might be an institution representing the commons. An organization charged with deciding what should remain a commons, and what could be rented out as private property. F.ex. pollution rights could be their mandate to allocate. Edit: Also, checkout https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geolibertarianism https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geolibertarianism it doesn't have to be either or