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did they ask people to stop? i read through the text and couldn't see that mentioned, which struck me as odd. i'm pretty sure that it wouldn't have stopped ev

did they ask people to stop? i read through the text and couldn't see that mentioned, which struck me as odd. i'm pretty sure that it wouldn't have stopped everyone, but to not ask people first seems a bit misguided to me. [edit: my comment on that page asking about this hasn't been answered, but there's a reply to another comment saying "people were approached" that refers to the previous post - http://www.techedbackstage.net/2010/02/17/bittorrent-traffic-shaping-and-trusting-users/ http://www.techedbackstage.net/2010/02/17/bittorrent-traffic... - that does describe in more detail what happened. and there's still no description of a general announcement. i do understand their frustration, but to take an approach like this without any announcement is going to encourage some people to "fight back". a sympathetic announcement with an explanation would have got the majority of users "on their side", producing peer pressure and setting expectations that would reduce the amount of conflict. not doing so comes across as passive aggressive and encourages an "arms race"]

noonespecial 17y ago
I think that if you find yourself banned, and then change your MAC to get back on the network to continue the abuse, that constitutes being asked to stop.
- andrewcooke 17y ago
  i've edited my comments to make it clearer that this isn't about whether or not people understood why they were being blocked, but about social management.
danw 17y ago
I've found that asking people to stop at large events doesn't usually make them stop. Tragedy of the commons style, people justify to themselves that one more person wont break the network. Of course asking people to stop, explaining why stopping would fix the network problems and stating abusers will get kicked are the correct first step just to let people know what's going on.

noonespecial 17y ago

I think that if you find yourself banned, and then change your MAC to get back on the network to continue the abuse, that constitutes being asked to stop.

andrewcooke 17y ago
i've edited my comments to make it clearer that this isn't about whether or not people understood why they were being blocked, but about social management.

danw 17y ago

I've found that asking people to stop at large events doesn't usually make them stop. Tragedy of the commons style, people justify to themselves that one more person wont break the network. Of course asking people to stop, explaining why stopping would fix the network problems and stating abusers will get kicked are the correct first step just to let people know what's going on.