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MIT license? Is open-source dying?

by randommodnar 11y ago

hnbroseph 11y ago
the question seems non sequitur.
- _ZeD_ 11y ago
  if you prefer "is free software dying"?
  - schoen 11y ago
    The MIT license is free and open source. https://opensource.org/licenses/MIT https://opensource.org/licenses/MIT https://www.gnu.org/licenses/license-list.html#X11License https://www.gnu.org/licenses/license-list.html#X11License Maybe "copyleft" or "reciprocal" licensing?
    - cyphar 11y ago
      Without copyleft, we wouldn't have free software in the form it is today.
mc808 11y ago
I was going to say it only takes about 30 seconds to fork and change the license if you want to. Then I decided to check if someone had already done so. Yep. https://github.com/ivegotasthma/coreutils/commit/4c7dcbd912a78fda77900806c8bb3a59335b2d6d https://github.com/ivegotasthma/coreutils/commit/4c7dcbd912a... I didn't count, but that may have taken less than 30 seconds.
- biot 11y ago
  Is that valid? The original license had: > The above copyright notice and this permission notice shall be > included in all copies or substantial portions of the Software. As those have now been stripped away, it seems like a license violation.
  - kps 11y ago
    You don't have to be a lawyer to recognize that as a genuine bona fide electrified six-car copyright violation. You just have to be able to read.
- deleted 11y ago
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cyphar 11y ago
I don't like this trend of new projects choosing weak free software licenses. It's as though they wish to ignore the history of the world they live in -- free software would not exist in the form it does today without copyleft. Copyleft is the one defense free software developers have against corporate monopolies and proprietary splitting. For some reason though, everyone who works in $NewLang seems to not care about this at all.
- goodplay 11y ago
  "Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it" I'd like to think that in the future when "the open-source bubble" bursts and companies fall back to 70s-era mentality, developers would rediscover why free software is important and a new movement would would be born. Sadly, I think hardware be permanently locked down by then. Perhaps by FCC-style law.

MIT license? Is open-source dying?

hnbroseph 11y ago

the question seems non sequitur.

_ZeD_ 11y ago
if you prefer "is free software dying"?
- schoen 11y ago
  The MIT license is free and open source. https://opensource.org/licenses/MIT https://opensource.org/licenses/MIT https://www.gnu.org/licenses/license-list.html#X11License https://www.gnu.org/licenses/license-list.html#X11License Maybe "copyleft" or "reciprocal" licensing?
  - cyphar 11y ago
    Without copyleft, we wouldn't have free software in the form it is today.

mc808 11y ago

I was going to say it only takes about 30 seconds to fork and change the license if you want to. Then I decided to check if someone had already done so. Yep. https://github.com/ivegotasthma/coreutils/commit/4c7dcbd912a78fda77900806c8bb3a59335b2d6d https://github.com/ivegotasthma/coreutils/commit/4c7dcbd912a... I didn't count, but that may have taken less than 30 seconds.

biot 11y ago
Is that valid? The original license had: > The above copyright notice and this permission notice shall be > included in all copies or substantial portions of the Software. As those have now been stripped away, it seems like a license violation.
- kps 11y ago
  You don't have to be a lawyer to recognize that as a genuine bona fide electrified six-car copyright violation. You just have to be able to read.
deleted 11y ago
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cyphar 11y ago

I don't like this trend of new projects choosing weak free software licenses. It's as though they wish to ignore the history of the world they live in -- free software would not exist in the form it does today without copyleft. Copyleft is the one defense free software developers have against corporate monopolies and proprietary splitting. For some reason though, everyone who works in $NewLang seems to not care about this at all.

goodplay 11y ago
"Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it" I'd like to think that in the future when "the open-source bubble" bursts and companies fall back to 70s-era mentality, developers would rediscover why free software is important and a new movement would would be born. Sadly, I think hardware be permanently locked down by then. Perhaps by FCC-style law.