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Some other major reasons people support UBI are: * Eliminating poverty and reducing economic inequality * Simplifying the social safety net * Preparing for a

• sre_ops 11y ago
  It will be swallowed by an immediate increase of the price of goods and services UBI would be spent on.
• jpadkins 11y ago
  > Recognizing a livable income as a human right I was with you until that one. The fundamental right to other people's wealth is a very slippery slope. I believe human rights should only be negative rights. > Paving the way for a new American Dream in the 21st century reads like political marketing fluff. dilutes the message.
  • hackuser 11y ago
    > The fundamental right to other people's wealth is a very slippery slope. All rights - everything a society does - require contributions from others. The premise that people somehow create wealth all by themselves and therefore have no obligation to share it is false. Everyone's wealth depends on enormous contributions from everyone else, current and past. How did they build their app without the free K-12 education (and the education of your teachers), the roads, telecommunications, laws, protocols, police ... the economists whose centuries of work have provided the wealth your investors and customers have; the scientists who developed the theories; all the open source developers who gave away their work and set open statndards; the soldiers who work for paltry wages in the crappiest working conditions in the world, and some of whom died, to provide the security necessary for our economy and society to survive; the political leaders who generation after generation have built democracy and civil rights ... whoever developed English and the ones who developed C++ ... All these people give us the opportunity to thrive. Do you think we would do so well without them? Are many startups happening in Somalia or Syria? Why should you or I be excluded from contributing and pulling our weight?
    • gwright 11y ago
      > All rights - everything a society does - require contributions from others. The concept of positive and negative rights is pretty well defined. If you are going to assert that all 'rights' are positive rights you need to do a tad bit more explaining. > The premise that people somehow create wealth all by themselves and therefore have no obligation to share it is false. You are throwing up a straw man. No one asserts that wealth is created 'all by themselves' at least according to the definition you seem to be using. It is also difficult to know what 'obligation to share' means. Does that mean "obligated to pay my taxes" or does it mean "obligated to support arbitrary redistribution schemes and government policies" or does it mean something else?
• pborowicz 11y ago
  Something I haven't seen talked about, but seem obvious to me. This would revitalize so many rural communities that lost or never had a major industry supplying jobs. This would stem the flow of youth out of places like Kansas or Upper Michigan. Can you imagine how much this would mean to communities like this?
  • pyoung 11y ago
    This could potentially have some positive secondary effects on the more populated areas as well. SF rent/home prices are insane, and part of the reason is due to the supply of good jobs. With less pressure to relocate to job centers, we could see an easing of demand in those areas. And this is a good counter-argument to those that claim a BI would just results in higher prices for everything.