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He doesn't mention making myspace more like facebook anywhere on his page. His layout does look very facebook-ish, but I find the edited title on HN needlessly

by ramchip 17y ago

He doesn't mention making myspace more like facebook anywhere on his page. His layout does look very facebook-ish, but I find the edited title on HN needlessly snarky and insulting in its use of the first person.

whalesalad 17y ago
I guess what I meant was, they can hire anyone to simplify their layout, hiring this guy isn't gonna change anything. I'm sure there are dozens of people at Myspace who want to simplify things. Just click on the link to the dude's about page (which is his myspace link) and there are about 6 flash advertisements on top of all the other crap. Link: http://www.myspace.com/nouman http://www.myspace.com/nouman Facebook removes customization/control from users, and that is why it is so popular. The focus is on communication and connection, not customization and self-promotion. The fundamental being of MySpace is what is flawed. Girls with glitter backgrounds and odd poses trying to show off their budding teenage breasts, guys trying to get some ass and scope out girls. Of course that happens everywhere, not just Myspace, but that's the kind of reputation that it holds. Most people's "pages" are difficult to look at. The only thing that Myspace is decent for is grabbing new music from bands, as that is what it originally set out to be. It's doomed, time to jump ship. No facebook^H^H^H^H.... clean design is going to save it now. It's fostered a community that reflects it's design, a crappy one. Just like the startup I once worked for... the culture was shitty no matter how much emotion and passion you put into your work or saving it, it was useless. Certain things cannot be changed or fixed. This reminds me a lot of Dustin Curtis' redesign of AA. I think the guy has talent and I don't mean to knock him at all, but you can't just expect to throw a fresh coat of paint on something and assume the people who use it and the stigma about it will suddenly change for the good. Heck, Facebook gets shit from users every single time it's redesigned. "1,000,000 strong to bring back the old Facebook!" - there have probably been 15 of those created every single time FB throws down a new design. tl;dr - I digress... the problem with Myspace is not the design and UX, it's the people on top (Newscorp), the community that has been fostered around it, and the stigma that it has in society. There's no turning back from that. My mom, grandmother, cousins, friends, colleagues, high school buddies, you name it are all on Facebook. Friends that I made before we could text or IM each other, back when we had to call or go knock on the door to see if they wanted to hang out, are on Facebook with me. My myspace page is a joke, a place where my ex-girlfriend used to get jealous and flaunt photos of her tits to all her friends. It's an absolute joke.
- ramchip 17y ago
  Oh, I agree 100% with you on that. Sorry for making it sound like I was debating. I just wanted people to know that the author didn't actually say what the title says, so there's actually nobody saying that myspace should be a facebook clone. We're preaching to the choir. Or being trolled exponentially, if I may say...
- Nouman 17y ago
  Dustin Curtis was definitely inspiration for this project. As well as the Big Noob's take on craigslist, and of course, "You're Killing Me Zappos" by Metaladdesign. Not my idea, not even close. Inspired by designers who are much better than me,

by ramchip 17y ago

whalesalad 17y ago

I guess what I meant was, they can hire anyone to simplify their layout, hiring this guy isn't gonna change anything. I'm sure there are dozens of people at Myspace who want to simplify things. Just click on the link to the dude's about page (which is his myspace link) and there are about 6 flash advertisements on top of all the other crap. Link: http://www.myspace.com/nouman http://www.myspace.com/nouman Facebook removes customization/control from users, and that is why it is so popular. The focus is on communication and connection, not customization and self-promotion. The fundamental being of MySpace is what is flawed. Girls with glitter backgrounds and odd poses trying to show off their budding teenage breasts, guys trying to get some ass and scope out girls. Of course that happens everywhere, not just Myspace, but that's the kind of reputation that it holds. Most people's "pages" are difficult to look at. The only thing that Myspace is decent for is grabbing new music from bands, as that is what it originally set out to be. It's doomed, time to jump ship. No facebook^H^H^H^H.... clean design is going to save it now. It's fostered a community that reflects it's design, a crappy one. Just like the startup I once worked for... the culture was shitty no matter how much emotion and passion you put into your work or saving it, it was useless. Certain things cannot be changed or fixed. This reminds me a lot of Dustin Curtis' redesign of AA. I think the guy has talent and I don't mean to knock him at all, but you can't just expect to throw a fresh coat of paint on something and assume the people who use it and the stigma about it will suddenly change for the good. Heck, Facebook gets shit from users every single time it's redesigned. "1,000,000 strong to bring back the old Facebook!" - there have probably been 15 of those created every single time FB throws down a new design. tl;dr - I digress... the problem with Myspace is not the design and UX, it's the people on top (Newscorp), the community that has been fostered around it, and the stigma that it has in society. There's no turning back from that. My mom, grandmother, cousins, friends, colleagues, high school buddies, you name it are all on Facebook. Friends that I made before we could text or IM each other, back when we had to call or go knock on the door to see if they wanted to hang out, are on Facebook with me. My myspace page is a joke, a place where my ex-girlfriend used to get jealous and flaunt photos of her tits to all her friends. It's an absolute joke.

ramchip 17y ago
Oh, I agree 100% with you on that. Sorry for making it sound like I was debating. I just wanted people to know that the author didn't actually say what the title says, so there's actually nobody saying that myspace should be a facebook clone. We're preaching to the choir. Or being trolled exponentially, if I may say...
Nouman 17y ago
Dustin Curtis was definitely inspiration for this project. As well as the Big Noob's take on craigslist, and of course, "You're Killing Me Zappos" by Metaladdesign. Not my idea, not even close. Inspired by designers who are much better than me,