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Are Kraft and Mondelez the same company? They now own British chocolate company Cadbury and have received a lot of criticism for changing recipes there (amongst

Are Kraft and Mondelez the same company? They now own British chocolate company Cadbury and have received a lot of criticism for changing recipes there (amongst other things). http://www.telegraph.co.uk/food-and-drink/features/7-ways-cadbury-has-been-trashed0/ http://www.telegraph.co.uk/food-and-drink/features/7-ways-ca...

wnevets 11y ago
Mondelez bought kraft iirc.
commiebob 11y ago
It went something like this - my memory is a little hazy as this happened a few years ago: Kraft at the time owned Nabisco and had all of it's "snack" brands under the Nabisco umbrella. Mondelez and Kraft merged and then split all the "snack" brands off under Mondelez (this included Cadbury because Kraft had already taken them over). Then 3G capital came in and merged Kraft and Heinz and spun Mondelez completely off into its own company - all the Cadbury/Nabisco brands are under the Mondelez umbrella and Kraft/Heinz has the non-snack stuff.
anexprogrammer 11y ago
Kraft renamed themselves Mondelez after spinning off grocery brands who now use the Kraft name - Philadelphia cheese etc. Mondelez are well on the way to destroying the Cadbury brand here. One of the things Kraft made a big deal of during the takeover was promising to keep a particular UK plant open. 7 days after finalisation they announced the plant's closure. Creme Eggs are now revolting, It's not even Cadbury choclate any more, but some sugary cheap fake chocolate. Being egg shaped, they were commonly sold in packs of 6, now sold in 5s - same price. They're also markedly smaller. They've fiddled with most products, generally made them noticeably worse, and shrunk the sizes of nearly everything. I buy other makes these days.
- logfromblammo 11y ago
  Bear in mind that British Cadbury's, after reformulation, is still better than American Cadbury's. Chicago may be the candy capital of the world, but let's just say that not all innovation in confectionery is to the ultimate good of the consumer. I don't know how, exactly, it has come to this, but I believe many of the chocolate-like products sold in the US are now labeled as "chocolate candy", as they no longer even meet any of the American legal definitions for chocolate. It makes it really easy to adhere to a low-sugar diet when all the "chocolate" around you is junk. Be glad if your chocolate still has actual cocoa butter in it, instead of coconut oil, palm oil, palm kernel oil, or shea butter. Or even sunflower or safflower oils!
  - anexprogrammer 11y ago
    I remember trying Hershey's chocolate on my first trip to the US, not expecting quite how nasty it was.
- checker 11y ago
  According to Wikipedia, they transitioned from chocolate (which legally in the US must only contain cocoa butter fats) to "cocoa-flavored", which can contain less or no cocoa butter and includes cheaper fats such as vegetable oil. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cadbury_Creme_Egg#Changes_to_product https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cadbury_Creme_Egg#Changes_to_p... http://www.latimes.com/la-oe-may19apr19-story.html http://www.latimes.com/la-oe-may19apr19-story.html
  - anexprogrammer 11y ago
    That would explain why the texture is wrong then. Best word I can find is "slimy", and is too sweet which is quite an achievement in a product that's 80% fondant.
- darkclarity 11y ago
  Cadbury's chocolate now reminds me of the stuff I used to find in cheap advent calendars and low end pick 'n' mix.

wnevets 11y ago

Mondelez bought kraft iirc.

commiebob 11y ago

It went something like this - my memory is a little hazy as this happened a few years ago: Kraft at the time owned Nabisco and had all of it's "snack" brands under the Nabisco umbrella. Mondelez and Kraft merged and then split all the "snack" brands off under Mondelez (this included Cadbury because Kraft had already taken them over). Then 3G capital came in and merged Kraft and Heinz and spun Mondelez completely off into its own company - all the Cadbury/Nabisco brands are under the Mondelez umbrella and Kraft/Heinz has the non-snack stuff.

anexprogrammer 11y ago

Kraft renamed themselves Mondelez after spinning off grocery brands who now use the Kraft name - Philadelphia cheese etc. Mondelez are well on the way to destroying the Cadbury brand here. One of the things Kraft made a big deal of during the takeover was promising to keep a particular UK plant open. 7 days after finalisation they announced the plant's closure. Creme Eggs are now revolting, It's not even Cadbury choclate any more, but some sugary cheap fake chocolate. Being egg shaped, they were commonly sold in packs of 6, now sold in 5s - same price. They're also markedly smaller. They've fiddled with most products, generally made them noticeably worse, and shrunk the sizes of nearly everything. I buy other makes these days.

logfromblammo 11y ago
Bear in mind that British Cadbury's, after reformulation, is still better than American Cadbury's. Chicago may be the candy capital of the world, but let's just say that not all innovation in confectionery is to the ultimate good of the consumer. I don't know how, exactly, it has come to this, but I believe many of the chocolate-like products sold in the US are now labeled as "chocolate candy", as they no longer even meet any of the American legal definitions for chocolate. It makes it really easy to adhere to a low-sugar diet when all the "chocolate" around you is junk. Be glad if your chocolate still has actual cocoa butter in it, instead of coconut oil, palm oil, palm kernel oil, or shea butter. Or even sunflower or safflower oils!
- anexprogrammer 11y ago
  I remember trying Hershey's chocolate on my first trip to the US, not expecting quite how nasty it was.
checker 11y ago
According to Wikipedia, they transitioned from chocolate (which legally in the US must only contain cocoa butter fats) to "cocoa-flavored", which can contain less or no cocoa butter and includes cheaper fats such as vegetable oil. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cadbury_Creme_Egg#Changes_to_product https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cadbury_Creme_Egg#Changes_to_p... http://www.latimes.com/la-oe-may19apr19-story.html http://www.latimes.com/la-oe-may19apr19-story.html
- anexprogrammer 11y ago
  That would explain why the texture is wrong then. Best word I can find is "slimy", and is too sweet which is quite an achievement in a product that's 80% fondant.
darkclarity 11y ago
Cadbury's chocolate now reminds me of the stuff I used to find in cheap advent calendars and low end pick 'n' mix.