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This strategy is how I imagine the "least painful" transition from init to systemd in a distro would go: someone would make the change, tell everyone to update

This strategy is how I imagine the "least painful" transition from init to systemd in a distro would go: someone would make the change, tell everyone to update, and then ask if anyone noticed.

robmccoll 11y ago
But then you'd go to add / remove / change an init script and realize that the world had been completely changed underneath you.
- striking 11y ago
  And your personalized init scripts, for applications not available in the repositories or for applications you want launched in a different way... would just break. I feel like on bootup you'd realize that your work was broken.
  - cakes 11y ago
    I was thinking about this and I guess _maybe_ if you didn't customize anything during boot/init it would work from your distro's install...very golden path thinking there...
- christianmann 11y ago
  Sort of reminds me of Windows.
ewzimm 11y ago
That actually sounds like the most painful transition possible as scripts would start failing and admins couldn't use their tools anymore. Would be entertaining to watch though.
oftenwrong 11y ago
Linux users tend to be aware of update contents. They read the changelogs, review the list of packages that will be updated, etc. I've been using a mac at my new job, and a dialog box popped up today asking if I wanted to update. The options were something like "Not now" and "Update all". How am I supposed to know if I want to update if I don't even know what's going to be updated?
- gknoy 11y ago
  The App Store's "Updates" tab shows which apps are getting updated, and can even show build notes.
- colomon 11y ago
  Click on the text box (not on the buttons) and it will bring up the update software and let you know what it wants to update.
draw_down 11y ago
That would be like if Kraft replaced the macaroni with nails without mentioning it, and then later asked if anyone noticed.

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This strategy is how I imagine the "least painful" transition from init to systemd in a distro would go: someone would make the change, tell everyone to update

by AdmiralAsshat 11y ago

This strategy is how I imagine the "least painful" transition from init to systemd in a distro would go: someone would make the change, tell everyone to update, and then ask if anyone noticed.

robmccoll 11y ago
But then you'd go to add / remove / change an init script and realize that the world had been completely changed underneath you.
- striking 11y ago
  And your personalized init scripts, for applications not available in the repositories or for applications you want launched in a different way... would just break. I feel like on bootup you'd realize that your work was broken.
  - cakes 11y ago
    I was thinking about this and I guess _maybe_ if you didn't customize anything during boot/init it would work from your distro's install...very golden path thinking there...
- christianmann 11y ago
  Sort of reminds me of Windows.
ewzimm 11y ago
That actually sounds like the most painful transition possible as scripts would start failing and admins couldn't use their tools anymore. Would be entertaining to watch though.
oftenwrong 11y ago
Linux users tend to be aware of update contents. They read the changelogs, review the list of packages that will be updated, etc. I've been using a mac at my new job, and a dialog box popped up today asking if I wanted to update. The options were something like "Not now" and "Update all". How am I supposed to know if I want to update if I don't even know what's going to be updated?
- gknoy 11y ago
  The App Store's "Updates" tab shows which apps are getting updated, and can even show build notes.
- colomon 11y ago
  Click on the text box (not on the buttons) and it will bring up the update software and let you know what it wants to update.
draw_down 11y ago
That would be like if Kraft replaced the macaroni with nails without mentioning it, and then later asked if anyone noticed.