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These sorts of things are silly revenge fantasies at best, they are just as easily cracked and removed as any drm features.

by throwaway2048 11y ago

PhasmaFelis 11y ago
That's not the point.
- throwaway2048 11y ago
  If its shown to be ineffective what is the point exactly?
  - kbenson 11y ago
    I think the point is that unless evidence is shown otherwise, there's little reason to believe that a significant portion of the people that pirated it got his purposefully seeded cracked version, as it was prior to it being possibly cracked otherwise, and there's little incentive for some cracking team to crack it if it appears it has already been done. That is, it's not that it's hard to work around his change, but that many people that could or would have done so may not have known it was needed. Of course, I'm sure that situation didn't persist.
- deelowe 11y ago
  For a dose of reality, I recommend browsing r/piracy. The mental gymnastics people go through to justify their actions is mind boggling.
  - over 11y ago
    Maybe, but for the silent majority it's pretty straightforward: 1) we view information as fundamentally different from currency, goods, and services; 2) we don't want to pay for information if we don't have to and we're not going to get caught. The gymnastics are mostly about just trying to figure out whether we're bad people or not - because everyone else's favorite game is Shame the Pirate - but once you realize you're not a bad person and that you're okay with doing something illegal then it all just sort of fades into the background.
    - bitJericho 11y ago
      Well you probably are a bad person though. A good person by definition tries to do good by other people.
      - scotty79 11y ago
        I prefer people that try to not do bad to other people. Those that do good can be risky.
        over 11y ago
        I think quietly doing good is okay, it's the people who talk about it that are risky.
    - manigandham 11y ago
      > but once you realize you're not a bad person and that you're okay with doing something illegal then it all just sort of fades into the background. Doing illegal things makes you a bad person. This isn't some fight against tyranny, it's theft (or illegal copying, more specifically).
      - toyg 11y ago
        Good != legal. Bad != illegal. A legal system that reflects everyone's moral system 100% of the time has not been invented yet (and is likely impossible).
      - akerro 11y ago
        Hey mate! Helping homeless is illegal in my city, as well as collecting wild berries, tenting in forest. Just because law is not realistic and doesn't protect anyone and was made only for profits from tickets doesn't make it a good law and me a bad person. I have a 100GB seedbox where I seed old books that are unavailable on paper in my country and scientific zip. How bad am I?
        manigandham 11y ago
  - Umn44 11y ago
    "For a dose of reality, I recommend browsing r/piracy. The mental gymnastics people go through to justify their actions is mind boggling." Nope, corporations stole the public domain with bullshit laws. Piracy is the only way most games will be saved. Many of us don't believe in the bullshit one sided laws being passed. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Copyright_Term_Extension_Act#/media/File:Copyright_term.svg https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Copyright_Term_Extension_Act#/...

These sorts of things are silly revenge fantasies at best, they are just as easily cracked and removed as any drm features.

PhasmaFelis 11y ago

That's not the point.

throwaway2048 11y ago
If its shown to be ineffective what is the point exactly?
- kbenson 11y ago
  I think the point is that unless evidence is shown otherwise, there's little reason to believe that a significant portion of the people that pirated it got his purposefully seeded cracked version, as it was prior to it being possibly cracked otherwise, and there's little incentive for some cracking team to crack it if it appears it has already been done. That is, it's not that it's hard to work around his change, but that many people that could or would have done so may not have known it was needed. Of course, I'm sure that situation didn't persist.
deelowe 11y ago
For a dose of reality, I recommend browsing r/piracy. The mental gymnastics people go through to justify their actions is mind boggling.
- over 11y ago
  Maybe, but for the silent majority it's pretty straightforward: 1) we view information as fundamentally different from currency, goods, and services; 2) we don't want to pay for information if we don't have to and we're not going to get caught. The gymnastics are mostly about just trying to figure out whether we're bad people or not - because everyone else's favorite game is Shame the Pirate - but once you realize you're not a bad person and that you're okay with doing something illegal then it all just sort of fades into the background.
  - bitJericho 11y ago
    Well you probably are a bad person though. A good person by definition tries to do good by other people.
    - scotty79 11y ago
      I prefer people that try to not do bad to other people. Those that do good can be risky.
      - over 11y ago
        I think quietly doing good is okay, it's the people who talk about it that are risky.
  - manigandham 11y ago
    > but once you realize you're not a bad person and that you're okay with doing something illegal then it all just sort of fades into the background. Doing illegal things makes you a bad person. This isn't some fight against tyranny, it's theft (or illegal copying, more specifically).
    - toyg 11y ago
      Good != legal. Bad != illegal. A legal system that reflects everyone's moral system 100% of the time has not been invented yet (and is likely impossible).
    - akerro 11y ago
      Hey mate! Helping homeless is illegal in my city, as well as collecting wild berries, tenting in forest. Just because law is not realistic and doesn't protect anyone and was made only for profits from tickets doesn't make it a good law and me a bad person. I have a 100GB seedbox where I seed old books that are unavailable on paper in my country and scientific zip. How bad am I?
      - manigandham 11y ago
- Umn44 11y ago
  "For a dose of reality, I recommend browsing r/piracy. The mental gymnastics people go through to justify their actions is mind boggling." Nope, corporations stole the public domain with bullshit laws. Piracy is the only way most games will be saved. Many of us don't believe in the bullshit one sided laws being passed. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Copyright_Term_Extension_Act#/media/File:Copyright_term.svg https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Copyright_Term_Extension_Act#/...