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I think the claim is that these views aren't held for utilitarian reasons, rather they are held for ideological reasons (ie freedom). In fact, if we want a pure

I think the claim is that these views aren't held for utilitarian reasons, rather they are held for ideological reasons (ie freedom). In fact, if we want a pure utilitarian viewpoint we ma find the East Asian model where you get shot for selling drugs to yield the most quantifiable value.

joshkpeterson 11y ago
No, nobody is talking about banning guns for ideological reasons. These are all positions based on pragmaticism, and they have great arguments to back them up. The best, actually.
onnoonno 11y ago
... for narrow definitions of 'quantifiable value'.