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Same issues with the other salary data aggregators. Missing the following. * currency, * country, * industry, * permanent or contractor * residential statu

Same issues with the other salary data aggregators. Missing the following. * currency, * country, * industry, * permanent or contractor * residential status, * remote or onsite, But I agree, if the data can be trusted, this is all you need.

logicallee 11y ago
Good comment. What are your thoughts on including: - "jump ship literally tomorrow salary requirement" (base, equity, signing bonus) regardless of whether you're looking, and an anonymized means of contact. It literally can't hurt. I don't think it even gives off any signal. I mean if you saw "$130K/undisclosed options/Bay Area/ Jump ship literally tomorrow: $180K + $15k signing bonus" it's next to no information. The only thing that can happen is you get a $180K offer in the mail, so that you can start somewhere else tomorrow. Nor does it price you out of any market, because presumably you would work for between $130K and $180K - maybe just not starting tomorrow, it would just take a LITTLE more interviewing. Nor does it show any level of dissatisfaction whatsoever to your current employer, should they put two and two together based on your skills or job title or anything else. thoughts?
- tdicola 11y ago
  The data is going to get really stale. What my jump ship tomorrow number is today will probably be vastly different in a year, two years, etc. Not to mention how does it help someone who just wants to see how their salary compares to others?
  - logicallee 11y ago
    That person could leave it blank. But as for the staleness issue you raise - that could be quite easy, the automated contact could be "tdicola, you have received a message about your jump-ship number", it can list whatever the person wanted to send you, and if it's stale data you could update it on the spot or remove yourself from that kind of search. I would think most people "have their jump-ship-tomorrow price", and updating it whenever you receive an offer that's outdated (and based on old info) means it would stay more or less current.
- jcoffland 11y ago
  Looking to jump ship?
  - logicallee 11y ago
    Haha, your profile here is intriguing, you can shoot me an email introducing yourself and I'll certainly reply, if nothing else to congratulate you on getting to work on such cool applications.
- yitchelle 11y ago
  Personally, "jump ship tomorrow salary requirement" is one of many items used to decide whether to actually jump ship or not. At the end of the day, these type of data is only one aspect to consider when deciding what to do next, or even to contemplate the next step. Having these data available adds another input into the mix.
  - logicallee 11y ago
    for sure! It's not like if our example gets an email saying someone would like to hire them for $180K, then they'll drive over for an interview and hand in their notice the same day. But do you think this is information that (as I think) should be asked here? I'm thinking it can only help workers.
    - yitchelle 11y ago
      If you can get that type of information, why not. It could only help for a more accurate comparison.
      - logicallee 11y ago
        all right (just to be clear I have nothing to do with the spreadsheet.) I was actually thinking that this could be a sort-of 'standing offer' from people as well. I mean hiring would certainly be a lot easier if everyone on linkedin had their price that you could probably immediately get them for! This is just particularly true in the tech industry, which is prone to delirious investor-fueled bubbles on the one hand, but in which, on the other hand, employees really can generate a few million dollars worth of value over a weekend. (For example, by refining a checkout recommendation for related items, that one refinement could objectively result in an extra $million in sales through that exact mechanism.) So I think the ability to actually reach workers at their jump-ship price (as opposed to just anonymously asking them for it, without any possibility for follow-up) could be a net benefit to employees. Good tech workers are extremely scarce.

logicallee 11y ago

Good comment. What are your thoughts on including: - "jump ship literally tomorrow salary requirement" (base, equity, signing bonus) regardless of whether you're looking, and an anonymized means of contact. It literally can't hurt. I don't think it even gives off any signal. I mean if you saw "$130K/undisclosed options/Bay Area/ Jump ship literally tomorrow: $180K + $15k signing bonus" it's next to no information. The only thing that can happen is you get a $180K offer in the mail, so that you can start somewhere else tomorrow. Nor does it price you out of any market, because presumably you would work for between $130K and $180K - maybe just not starting tomorrow, it would just take a LITTLE more interviewing. Nor does it show any level of dissatisfaction whatsoever to your current employer, should they put two and two together based on your skills or job title or anything else. thoughts?

tdicola 11y ago
The data is going to get really stale. What my jump ship tomorrow number is today will probably be vastly different in a year, two years, etc. Not to mention how does it help someone who just wants to see how their salary compares to others?
- logicallee 11y ago
  That person could leave it blank. But as for the staleness issue you raise - that could be quite easy, the automated contact could be "tdicola, you have received a message about your jump-ship number", it can list whatever the person wanted to send you, and if it's stale data you could update it on the spot or remove yourself from that kind of search. I would think most people "have their jump-ship-tomorrow price", and updating it whenever you receive an offer that's outdated (and based on old info) means it would stay more or less current.
jcoffland 11y ago
Looking to jump ship?
- logicallee 11y ago
  Haha, your profile here is intriguing, you can shoot me an email introducing yourself and I'll certainly reply, if nothing else to congratulate you on getting to work on such cool applications.
yitchelle 11y ago
Personally, "jump ship tomorrow salary requirement" is one of many items used to decide whether to actually jump ship or not. At the end of the day, these type of data is only one aspect to consider when deciding what to do next, or even to contemplate the next step. Having these data available adds another input into the mix.
- logicallee 11y ago
  for sure! It's not like if our example gets an email saying someone would like to hire them for $180K, then they'll drive over for an interview and hand in their notice the same day. But do you think this is information that (as I think) should be asked here? I'm thinking it can only help workers.
  - yitchelle 11y ago
    If you can get that type of information, why not. It could only help for a more accurate comparison.
    - logicallee 11y ago
      all right (just to be clear I have nothing to do with the spreadsheet.) I was actually thinking that this could be a sort-of 'standing offer' from people as well. I mean hiring would certainly be a lot easier if everyone on linkedin had their price that you could probably immediately get them for! This is just particularly true in the tech industry, which is prone to delirious investor-fueled bubbles on the one hand, but in which, on the other hand, employees really can generate a few million dollars worth of value over a weekend. (For example, by refining a checkout recommendation for related items, that one refinement could objectively result in an extra $million in sales through that exact mechanism.) So I think the ability to actually reach workers at their jump-ship price (as opposed to just anonymously asking them for it, without any possibility for follow-up) could be a net benefit to employees. Good tech workers are extremely scarce.