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Most of that route would be over the Pacific, so it would be fine, too (although ex-West Coast US). It might be a fuel issue on distance, but probably not. Al
by rdl 11y ago
Most of that route would be over the Pacific, so it would be fine, too (although ex-West Coast US).
It might be a fuel issue on distance, but probably not. Also potentially an ETOPS range issue.
However, there are three big issues with transpac: (not impossible issues, but strong reasons why NYC-LON is ideal as MVP)
1) Greater number of destination cities on each side; for transatlantic, NYC-LON really is the main market. LAX-NRT is probably the best first pass. but LAX/SFO/SEA/LAS/Texas/NY/DC could all make solid claims on being sources of traffic, and there are >10 cities in Asia which would be destinations and fairly far apart? I'd almost certainly prefer a nonstop NYC-PEK to a domestic NYC-LAX, switch to LAX-NRT supersonic, then another subsonic NRT-PEK.
2) A lot of the good cities are inland, so no supersonic for those parts of the flights. NYC-PEK or NYC-PVG (corrected) would be awesome, but there's a lot of inland there. So you're also stuck doing something suboptimal, either connecting flights or operating outside supersonic regime.
3) After a certain point, comfort is a priority over absolute speed. If it lets you accomplish a mission (meeting, etc.) in a single day, that's a new capability. if it means you get 5h of cramped sleep and then another 7h of cramped sleep on the way back, that's not really better for most missions than 8-10h of comfortable sleep in a full-sized suite for the same price. There clearly is a value in 1-4h flights from USA to China/India, but that requires more than Mach 2.2 -- maybe exoatmospheric.
Another option is probably "events"; special flights to follow F1 and stuff like that. Concorde did a lot of that toward the end.
- jessaustin 11y agoNYC-PEK or NYC-PVG would be awesome, but there's a lot of inland there. A lot of really sparsely populated inland. How politically influential are the Siberian fur trappers this route [0] overflies? Enough to counteract the fat overflight fees that Russia likes to charge? [0] http://www.greatcirclemapper.net/en/great-circle-mapper/route/KJFK-ZBAA/aircraft/235.html http://www.greatcirclemapper.net/en/great-circle-mapper/rout...
- rdl 11y agoYou are right -- there would be a bit of extra subsonic about 150km into Canada, but it would work. Flight time at 2.2 would still suck, but there could be a market. Probably depends on the total traffic between the city pairs, since some fraction would pay for supersonic coach-size business vs subsonic business/first.
- jessaustin 11y agoI figured it took that far just to get to a suitable altitude. This isn't a King Air Beech 90 one can just keep cranking back while jamming the throttle. It was designed with very different goals.