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History keeps repeating itself. That is what they said about those new fuel injected motors and control systems. It's just lag as the knowledge of how to fix ne

by Cymen 11y ago

History keeps repeating itself. That is what they said about those new fuel injected motors and control systems. It's just lag as the knowledge of how to fix new things spreads to the aftermarket. The stories about the Prius/Toyota battery pack corrosion and the DIY fix (instead of a complete battery pack replacement per Toyota standard operation) are an example of this. There is always a group that resists change and says it's the end and then within a few years, people adapt and figure out how to fix things all the same. Admittedly, if completely locked out of the control system, what Tesla is doing may be more effective at blocking the aftermarket. But at some point, someone will just rip out the whole processing unit and replace it with a homegrown solution. The refrain has been "oh, all these sensors and who knows and ...". But the aftermarket keeps getting smarter.

yardie 11y ago
There is a bit of evolution going on in batteries for RVs (caravans) and boats at the moment. Everyone wants to move to LiFePo batteries but most of the charging systems onboard are designed for traditional lead acids. Most lead acid chargers use a complex 3-4 stage charger. Lithium-ion is much simpler, 3.6V/cell until full. But actually getting a charger that will do this simple job has proved to be quite difficult. People are starting to learn and there are still a lot of hold outs who believe charging Lithium-ions will burn your boat/RV/car down unless you are super, extra cautious.
beeboop 11y ago
I am not sure the fuel injection analogy will hold up here. There's nothing in a fuel injected car that will kill you unless you shove your arm into an exposed engine and try to run the starter or something, in which case you'd probably need two people and you'd have to be dumb enough to have left the battery connected. And even then you'd probably survive despite your crushed or amputated arm. Electric cars are easily very lethal just by touching the wrong thing, or accidentally piercing a battery pack.
- Cymen 11y ago
  Working on vehicles has always been dangerous when they weigh 2,000+ pounds and are often supported by flimsy equipment. I don't disagree that batteries are lethal but it's just one more thing in a long list of things that can kill you while working on cars.

by Cymen 11y ago

yardie 11y ago

There is a bit of evolution going on in batteries for RVs (caravans) and boats at the moment. Everyone wants to move to LiFePo batteries but most of the charging systems onboard are designed for traditional lead acids. Most lead acid chargers use a complex 3-4 stage charger. Lithium-ion is much simpler, 3.6V/cell until full. But actually getting a charger that will do this simple job has proved to be quite difficult. People are starting to learn and there are still a lot of hold outs who believe charging Lithium-ions will burn your boat/RV/car down unless you are super, extra cautious.

beeboop 11y ago

I am not sure the fuel injection analogy will hold up here. There's nothing in a fuel injected car that will kill you unless you shove your arm into an exposed engine and try to run the starter or something, in which case you'd probably need two people and you'd have to be dumb enough to have left the battery connected. And even then you'd probably survive despite your crushed or amputated arm. Electric cars are easily very lethal just by touching the wrong thing, or accidentally piercing a battery pack.

Cymen 11y ago
Working on vehicles has always been dangerous when they weigh 2,000+ pounds and are often supported by flimsy equipment. I don't disagree that batteries are lethal but it's just one more thing in a long list of things that can kill you while working on cars.