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Mark my words, now that states see the incredible tax revenues from this industry, they're going to tax the fuck out of it, and then regulate the hell out of it

Mark my words, now that states see the incredible tax revenues from this industry, they're going to tax the fuck out of it, and then regulate the hell out of it to discourage and limit new businesses popping up all over (which is already happening anyways). This has become a cash cow for state governments and I don't see this ending well for anybody wanting to use legally. The government track record on stuff like this is absolutely miserable.

peteretep 11y ago
> and limit new businesses > popping up So they're going to try and maximise tax revenue by stopping new businesses? Gotcha
- sageabilly 11y ago
  No, it's probably going to turn into the same thing that's happened with liquor laws in the US where some states have state ABC boards and you can only buy the very specific liquors that are on the approved list and only at the state-run liquor stores. Even states that don't have state-run liquor stores have very strict importing and distribution rules which leads to three steps between the distiller and the store, with each step taking money off the top and paying taxes.
  - fluxquanta 11y ago
    The difference is that unlike building your own expensive and potentially dangerous liquor still, a personal supply of cannabis can just be grown in a sunny plot of land, or if you want to get real fancy, with indoor growing equipment that also has "legitimate" uses. It is a weed, after all.
    - at-fates-hands 11y ago
      Which also takes time, energy and depending on how much you grow, a possibly higher energy bill at the end of the month. I know for years, cops used to co-ordinate with the local energy companies to spot houses that were suddenly spiking with energy usage and tip off the cops. This ran into issues of guys trying to tap into their neighbors HVAC system or AC system to get more power and stay off the energy companies list. I would go out on a limb and say doing stuff like that is just as dangerous as having an illegal still.
      - fluxquanta 11y ago
        That goes beyond a "personal supply", though. Check out "space buckets".
njharman 11y ago
yeah, in retrospect it's obvious. How do you get any "vice" legalized. You figure out how municipalities and states can tax the fuck out of it.

peteretep 11y ago

> and limit new businesses > popping up So they're going to try and maximise tax revenue by stopping new businesses? Gotcha

sageabilly 11y ago
No, it's probably going to turn into the same thing that's happened with liquor laws in the US where some states have state ABC boards and you can only buy the very specific liquors that are on the approved list and only at the state-run liquor stores. Even states that don't have state-run liquor stores have very strict importing and distribution rules which leads to three steps between the distiller and the store, with each step taking money off the top and paying taxes.
- fluxquanta 11y ago
  The difference is that unlike building your own expensive and potentially dangerous liquor still, a personal supply of cannabis can just be grown in a sunny plot of land, or if you want to get real fancy, with indoor growing equipment that also has "legitimate" uses. It is a weed, after all.
  - at-fates-hands 11y ago
    Which also takes time, energy and depending on how much you grow, a possibly higher energy bill at the end of the month. I know for years, cops used to co-ordinate with the local energy companies to spot houses that were suddenly spiking with energy usage and tip off the cops. This ran into issues of guys trying to tap into their neighbors HVAC system or AC system to get more power and stay off the energy companies list. I would go out on a limb and say doing stuff like that is just as dangerous as having an illegal still.
    - fluxquanta 11y ago
      That goes beyond a "personal supply", though. Check out "space buckets".

njharman 11y ago

yeah, in retrospect it's obvious. How do you get any "vice" legalized. You figure out how municipalities and states can tax the fuck out of it.