I think what happened was that he (Doug) was trying to push SL into helping out more and to get some issues fixed, Doug felt like he was getting somewhere, but

I think what happened was that he (Doug) was trying to push SL into helping out more and to get some issues fixed, Doug felt like he was getting somewhere, but then SL was sold to IBM all conversations had to be started again. There is a github issue titled 'Is Express dying?' [1] that contains all of the events, issues and comments from Doug, TJ, SL and IBM. [1] - https://github.com/expressjs/express/issues/2844 https://github.com/expressjs/express/issues/2844