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Funny to read, because I have the reverse experience. I have for long been using Linux and classic open source tooling for my work and am now moving to use Wind

Funny to read, because I have the reverse experience. I have for long been using Linux and classic open source tooling for my work and am now moving to use Windows and .NET. I have immense issues understanding the platform and how everything work. For example, scheduling jobs is something I still don't fully understand.

marcus_holmes 11y ago
Welcome to DLL Hell ;) The thing I didn't get (and still don't fully appreciate) is the power of bash - you can write almost-serious code in this! And some of the standard CLI utilities (stand up awk) are like pocket universes of depth and complexity. Windows probably has a lot of the same stuff, I hear good things about PowerScript, but it's not so standard to use it as a code monkey. I miss Visual Studio sometimes. The mess of terminal windows and text editors that I code in now is frustrating at times.
- UK-AL 11y ago
  Powershell, not powerscript.
  - marcus_holmes 11y ago
    I stand corrected. Thanks :)
- staticelf 11y ago
  I haven't had any reason to touch a DLL file yet. However, I still use the terminal by using ConEMU with Git Bash to get git in the terminal because I don't know how else to do it. But you mention bash and awk, I have never in my years of experience really used these tools a lot either. Maybe some small bash-script to backup or something similar, but nothing else really. You don't have to use it and most of the times it's easier to write a python script or what not. I haven't really bothered to learn any PowerShell except "Update-Database" in the Package Manager Console.
  - marcus_holmes 11y ago
    DLL Hell could have got a lot better since I last had to deal with it. I occasionally bump into a dependency problem with Ruby gems that reminds me of it. I don't use bash a lot, but there is an expectation in Linux-land that everyone has some familiarity with it. That's not true in the Windows world so much. In my experience anyway. I'd be interested to see if a much more functional shell environment generates more use of it.
- zeveb 11y ago
  > The mess of terminal windows and text editors that I code in now is frustrating at times. Just use emacs for everything! It runs in X, it runs in a TTY, it runs everywhere. My own stack is st[1], tmux & emacs, with Firefox as my browser, within a tiling window manager. I have a single terminal open at any point in time, with tmux multiplexing the sessions. I use C-z as the tmux escape key, because it's easy to type and doesn't do any harm if I accidentally type it outside of tmux. I autostart emacs in server mode from a systemd unit[2] and run it under X. Sometimes I use emacs's TTY or shell modes. This is something I'd like to explore more. If I did this, I might be able to have one window for both shells and text editing. Regardless, I have one terminal window to rule them all and one editor window to rule them all. With Firefox tabs, I only need one web-browser window too (although I'm considering using emacs-w3m and/or eww more). [1] http://st.suckless.org/ http://st.suckless.org/ [2] https://www.emacswiki.org/emacs/EmacsAsDaemon#toc8 https://www.emacswiki.org/emacs/EmacsAsDaemon#toc8
  - wcummings 11y ago
    >Sometimes I use emacs's TTY or shell modes. This is something I'd like to explore more. If I did this, I might be able to have one window for both shells and text editing. I recommend eshell
mdpopescu 11y ago
You mean this? [1] [1] https://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/cc738335(v=ws.10).aspx https://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/cc738335(v=ws.10...

marcus_holmes 11y ago

Welcome to DLL Hell ;) The thing I didn't get (and still don't fully appreciate) is the power of bash - you can write almost-serious code in this! And some of the standard CLI utilities (stand up awk) are like pocket universes of depth and complexity. Windows probably has a lot of the same stuff, I hear good things about PowerScript, but it's not so standard to use it as a code monkey. I miss Visual Studio sometimes. The mess of terminal windows and text editors that I code in now is frustrating at times.

UK-AL 11y ago
Powershell, not powerscript.
- marcus_holmes 11y ago
  I stand corrected. Thanks :)
staticelf 11y ago
I haven't had any reason to touch a DLL file yet. However, I still use the terminal by using ConEMU with Git Bash to get git in the terminal because I don't know how else to do it. But you mention bash and awk, I have never in my years of experience really used these tools a lot either. Maybe some small bash-script to backup or something similar, but nothing else really. You don't have to use it and most of the times it's easier to write a python script or what not. I haven't really bothered to learn any PowerShell except "Update-Database" in the Package Manager Console.
- marcus_holmes 11y ago
  DLL Hell could have got a lot better since I last had to deal with it. I occasionally bump into a dependency problem with Ruby gems that reminds me of it. I don't use bash a lot, but there is an expectation in Linux-land that everyone has some familiarity with it. That's not true in the Windows world so much. In my experience anyway. I'd be interested to see if a much more functional shell environment generates more use of it.
zeveb 11y ago
> The mess of terminal windows and text editors that I code in now is frustrating at times. Just use emacs for everything! It runs in X, it runs in a TTY, it runs everywhere. My own stack is st[1], tmux & emacs, with Firefox as my browser, within a tiling window manager. I have a single terminal open at any point in time, with tmux multiplexing the sessions. I use C-z as the tmux escape key, because it's easy to type and doesn't do any harm if I accidentally type it outside of tmux. I autostart emacs in server mode from a systemd unit[2] and run it under X. Sometimes I use emacs's TTY or shell modes. This is something I'd like to explore more. If I did this, I might be able to have one window for both shells and text editing. Regardless, I have one terminal window to rule them all and one editor window to rule them all. With Firefox tabs, I only need one web-browser window too (although I'm considering using emacs-w3m and/or eww more). [1] http://st.suckless.org/ http://st.suckless.org/ [2] https://www.emacswiki.org/emacs/EmacsAsDaemon#toc8 https://www.emacswiki.org/emacs/EmacsAsDaemon#toc8
- wcummings 11y ago
  >Sometimes I use emacs's TTY or shell modes. This is something I'd like to explore more. If I did this, I might be able to have one window for both shells and text editing. I recommend eshell

mdpopescu 11y ago

You mean this? [1] [1] https://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/cc738335(v=ws.10).aspx https://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/cc738335(v=ws.10...