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The comparison to stealing is frankly ridiculous, as the law doesn't say you can't transfer money. It will explicitly talk about consent. If contracts allowed y

by IanCal 11y ago

The comparison to stealing is frankly ridiculous, as the law doesn't say you can't transfer money. It will explicitly talk about consent. If contracts allowed you to agree to anything then minimum wage laws couldn't work. Which side the impersonation laws fall on will depend on how they're written.

OJFord 11y ago
What about boxing, martial arts sparring, fencing, assisted suicide, and voting by proxy? The point here is that you either _can_ contract your way out, or (what I suspect is the case) there re exclusions in the law were relevant. Either way, it suggests this might not be illegal if covered by something blindly tick-boxed.
- ams6110 11y ago
  You seem to be opertating under the delusion that the law is logically consistent. It isn't. There are some things you can allow by contract/permission and some things you cannot, and circumstance matters.
  - OJFord 11y ago
    No, I'm not. I'm responding to the blanket statement to the contrary. I fully expect that it's a case of cased exclusions as I've said in another comment.
- IanCal 11y ago
  You cannot, uniformly, give people the ability to do anything to you. That's the point I'm making. > What about boxing, martial arts sparring, fencing Consent only works up to a point. I cannot consent to you stabbing me or beating me into a bloody pulp. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Consent_(criminal_law) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Consent_(criminal_law) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/R_v_Brown https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/R_v_Brown It's worth noting that bare knuckle boxing is illegal in the UK, and you can't just sign a document to do it. > assisted suicide Assisted suicide is illegal in the UK. It does not matter if the patient signs a contract to say it's OK, it's still illegal.
  - OJFord 11y ago
    Again, my point about AS was that it has it's own legislation, implying to me at least that that of murder, manslaughter, suicide do not necessarily cover it by default.

by IanCal 11y ago

OJFord 11y ago

What about boxing, martial arts sparring, fencing, assisted suicide, and voting by proxy? The point here is that you either _can_ contract your way out, or (what I suspect is the case) there re exclusions in the law were relevant. Either way, it suggests this might not be illegal if covered by something blindly tick-boxed.

ams6110 11y ago
You seem to be opertating under the delusion that the law is logically consistent. It isn't. There are some things you can allow by contract/permission and some things you cannot, and circumstance matters.
- OJFord 11y ago
  No, I'm not. I'm responding to the blanket statement to the contrary. I fully expect that it's a case of cased exclusions as I've said in another comment.
IanCal 11y ago
You cannot, uniformly, give people the ability to do anything to you. That's the point I'm making. > What about boxing, martial arts sparring, fencing Consent only works up to a point. I cannot consent to you stabbing me or beating me into a bloody pulp. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Consent_(criminal_law) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Consent_(criminal_law) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/R_v_Brown https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/R_v_Brown It's worth noting that bare knuckle boxing is illegal in the UK, and you can't just sign a document to do it. > assisted suicide Assisted suicide is illegal in the UK. It does not matter if the patient signs a contract to say it's OK, it's still illegal.
- OJFord 11y ago
  Again, my point about AS was that it has it's own legislation, implying to me at least that that of murder, manslaughter, suicide do not necessarily cover it by default.