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Darn, with all this talk we hear of a "new Microsoft", it would be nice if they stopped doing this.

JayHost 11y ago
There's always another Microsoft hurdle. Recently Windows 10 showing Tomb Raider advertisements. Windows 7 upgrading to 10 without permission. This article claims Microsoft is embracing open source in a way that is not just to extend and distinguish. In my limited knowledge it looks like adaptation. They tried to extinguish; didn't work They tried to extend and extinguish. Now they have to embrace. Not so fun fact. "Microsoft paid a guy named Ken Brown to write a book saying Linus stole Linux from my MINIX 1 system." - Tanenbaum It feels a lot like an abusive relationship people don't know how to walk away from.
anon987 11y ago
Yep. People come out of the woodwork to praise MS when they do something that involves Linux, but when they are caught (yet again) doing something anti-Linux it get very quiet. I think this headline sums it up best: http://www.infoworld.com/article/3042699/open-source-tools/microsoft-loves-open-source-only-when-its-convenient.html http://www.infoworld.com/article/3042699/open-source-tools/m...
cyphar 11y ago
It needs a culture change, and that won't happen. If Microsoft actually wanted to be a part of the free software community, they would start liberating all of their software, one piece at a time. Most of the things I've seen look like business decisions (top-down) not engineering decisions (bottom-up). I still feel that liberating .NET was done to force Mono out of business. Or to attempt to gain a monopoly with C# developers. Don't get me wrong, more free software is always a good thing. But I still remember the Microsoft of old and no, I don't accept that they've changed their ways. It's just the next step in their line of business decisions.
awalton 11y ago
The reality is there is no new Microsoft. They're just trying to put a shine on a company in decline to keep investors happy. And that's easy to do with good marketing strategies like "Microsoft <3's Linux", while they are still doing the same antics to undermine Linux as they've been doing from the beginning. Really all that's changed is they got rid of the chair throwing, vitriolic anti-Linux CEO and replaced him with a politician who knows how to work a crowd.

There's always another Microsoft hurdle. Recently Windows 10 showing Tomb Raider advertisements. Windows 7 upgrading to 10 without permission. This article claims Microsoft is embracing open source in a way that is not just to extend and distinguish. In my limited knowledge it looks like adaptation. They tried to extinguish; didn't work They tried to extend and extinguish. Now they have to embrace. Not so fun fact. "Microsoft paid a guy named Ken Brown to write a book saying Linus stole Linux from my MINIX 1 system." - Tanenbaum It feels a lot like an abusive relationship people don't know how to walk away from.

anon987 11y ago

Yep. People come out of the woodwork to praise MS when they do something that involves Linux, but when they are caught (yet again) doing something anti-Linux it get very quiet. I think this headline sums it up best: http://www.infoworld.com/article/3042699/open-source-tools/microsoft-loves-open-source-only-when-its-convenient.html http://www.infoworld.com/article/3042699/open-source-tools/m...

cyphar 11y ago

It needs a culture change, and that won't happen. If Microsoft actually wanted to be a part of the free software community, they would start liberating all of their software, one piece at a time. Most of the things I've seen look like business decisions (top-down) not engineering decisions (bottom-up). I still feel that liberating .NET was done to force Mono out of business. Or to attempt to gain a monopoly with C# developers. Don't get me wrong, more free software is always a good thing. But I still remember the Microsoft of old and no, I don't accept that they've changed their ways. It's just the next step in their line of business decisions.

awalton 11y ago

The reality is there is no new Microsoft. They're just trying to put a shine on a company in decline to keep investors happy. And that's easy to do with good marketing strategies like "Microsoft <3's Linux", while they are still doing the same antics to undermine Linux as they've been doing from the beginning. Really all that's changed is they got rid of the chair throwing, vitriolic anti-Linux CEO and replaced him with a politician who knows how to work a crowd.