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I am in the non-vocal minority that doesn't like nethack. I love games but I am in for the narration, the stories. I fondly remember the narratology vs. ludolog

I am in the non-vocal minority that doesn't like nethack. I love games but I am in for the narration, the stories. I fondly remember the narratology vs. ludology debate from 10 years back. I prefer things like Knytt (from nifflas) for example (the story is rather weak but the ambiance it gives out and the feelings I get from it entertains me more). edit: For instance I really dig adarkroom.doublespeakgames.com/ and played through it two times because of the mood, the theme and the slight hints of a story behind it. I could never play nethack for more than 5 minutes. On a side note, I used to play role-playing games and now all my friends are into strategy board games with 72 pages or rules. It's okay, I just sit in the couch reading the background of the world and its characters while they compute ranges and the spawn ratio of monsters for the next round of the game.

sudeepj 11y ago
In that case, may I suggest ADOM (Ancient Domains Of Mystery) http://www.ancardia.com/ http://www.ancardia.com/ It has a very absorbing storyline + high replay value.
- johnchristopher 11y ago
  Thanks, I tried it yesterday for 10 minutes, without reading the manual and didn't get very far. I couldn't enter towns and caverns and the bottom UI right half was off screen so I couldn't exit the game (and the top right close button of the window didn't work so I had to kill the process). I died in the plains, killed by a barbarian. I might give it a shot later but I doubt I'll play it for long. It's not the killing, it's the UI. The music is really nice though.
  - guard-of-terra 11y ago
    ADOM has one of the nicest UIs between roguelikes, I guess you just got very unlucky with your terminal. There is SSH server with ADOM - http://ancardia.us.to/ http://ancardia.us.to/ might be more convenient. Entering anything is '>'.
    - johnchristopher 11y ago
      Terminal ? I was playing under Windows (I followed the links and the latest `free' version is 0.60 http://www.adom.de/home/downloads.html http://www.adom.de/home/downloads.html ?). Here's my main screen https://lut.im/lQnALEHivJ/FppL5O9xxlpZVf2z.png https://lut.im/lQnALEHivJ/FppL5O9xxlpZVf2z.png And here's how it usually ends https://lut.im/vVKKqfc2ug/Bfk8uNV1tml17Zbe.png https://lut.im/vVKKqfc2ug/Bfk8uNV1tml17Zbe.png It was a mix of mouse clicking and keyboard typing. Edit: thanks. I tried the public server. I now know I definitely don't like unix rogue-like game :].
the_af 11y ago
I remember the free Knytt game(s) and have to agree! The ambience was perfect. I know there is a new commercial Knytt game, but I fear the pixelated simplicity of the earlier games would be lost. Have you played it? (I probably should buy it anyway, if anything to reward the author for his excellent previous games).
- johnchristopher 11y ago
  > I know there is a new commercial Knytt game, but I fear the pixelated simplicity of the earlier games would be lost. Have you played it? I played the demo and I didn't enjoyed it. The ambiance is kinda still there but... not enough. Unfortunately he incorporated some game-play mechanics from the game with the ball (the name escapes me at the moment) and that is a deal breaker for me (although I did finish that game :) because it sucks me out of the mood back to tricky jumps. Anyway, there's a demo with some playable chapters on his website.
dllthomas 11y ago
In my experience, any given nethack game has a kind of narrative of its own - usually ending in tragedy.

sudeepj 11y ago

In that case, may I suggest ADOM (Ancient Domains Of Mystery) http://www.ancardia.com/ http://www.ancardia.com/ It has a very absorbing storyline + high replay value.

johnchristopher 11y ago
Thanks, I tried it yesterday for 10 minutes, without reading the manual and didn't get very far. I couldn't enter towns and caverns and the bottom UI right half was off screen so I couldn't exit the game (and the top right close button of the window didn't work so I had to kill the process). I died in the plains, killed by a barbarian. I might give it a shot later but I doubt I'll play it for long. It's not the killing, it's the UI. The music is really nice though.
- guard-of-terra 11y ago
  ADOM has one of the nicest UIs between roguelikes, I guess you just got very unlucky with your terminal. There is SSH server with ADOM - http://ancardia.us.to/ http://ancardia.us.to/ might be more convenient. Entering anything is '>'.
  - johnchristopher 11y ago
    Terminal ? I was playing under Windows (I followed the links and the latest `free' version is 0.60 http://www.adom.de/home/downloads.html http://www.adom.de/home/downloads.html ?). Here's my main screen https://lut.im/lQnALEHivJ/FppL5O9xxlpZVf2z.png https://lut.im/lQnALEHivJ/FppL5O9xxlpZVf2z.png And here's how it usually ends https://lut.im/vVKKqfc2ug/Bfk8uNV1tml17Zbe.png https://lut.im/vVKKqfc2ug/Bfk8uNV1tml17Zbe.png It was a mix of mouse clicking and keyboard typing. Edit: thanks. I tried the public server. I now know I definitely don't like unix rogue-like game :].

the_af 11y ago

I remember the free Knytt game(s) and have to agree! The ambience was perfect. I know there is a new commercial Knytt game, but I fear the pixelated simplicity of the earlier games would be lost. Have you played it? (I probably should buy it anyway, if anything to reward the author for his excellent previous games).

johnchristopher 11y ago
> I know there is a new commercial Knytt game, but I fear the pixelated simplicity of the earlier games would be lost. Have you played it? I played the demo and I didn't enjoyed it. The ambiance is kinda still there but... not enough. Unfortunately he incorporated some game-play mechanics from the game with the ball (the name escapes me at the moment) and that is a deal breaker for me (although I did finish that game :) because it sucks me out of the mood back to tricky jumps. Anyway, there's a demo with some playable chapters on his website.

dllthomas 11y ago

In my experience, any given nethack game has a kind of narrative of its own - usually ending in tragedy.