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Alternately, the accepted shorthand for some groups may well be "the left" and "the right". Similarly, there are people who will use the term "Social Justice Wa

Alternately, the accepted shorthand for some groups may well be "the left" and "the right". Similarly, there are people who will use the term "Social Justice Warrior" while identifying with the movement, because it is a decent shorthand. "What do those groups represent then, "the right"?" It is possible to have other disagreements with those viewpoints despite what others might believe. For example, it is absolutely ideologically consistent that while the left may support atheism in the abstract they would also fail to support its logical conclusion that Islam as a religion and its practitioners should be re-educated. Similarly, the right may support gun owners but still disagree that felons/minorities should be allowed to own firearms.

hartpuff 11y ago
"The Jews" is an accepted shorthand for some people, and like "the left" you can be fairly certain the argument around the term is not going to focus on what a great bunch of lads they are. As to the other point, if both groups are "the left" (even though in this case one group is not behaving that way) then why argue that "the left" is censoring/repressing, when it's at least equally true (I'd say more true) that "the left" is being censored/repressed? I mean it's pretty funny seeing people on "the right" pretending to care that feminists and gay-rights activists are being shut down.
- angersock 11y ago
  "The Jews" is an accepted shorthand for some people, Many of those people themselves being Jewish, referring to their own communities and people! I see what you're driving at, but the simple fact of the matter is that "leftist" is no more an automatic insult that "rightist" unless one is misidentified. I mean it's pretty funny seeing people on "the right" pretending to care that feminists and gay-rights activists are being shut down. I think it's reasonable that even the most die-hard reactionary may see the existential threat posed by policies and behaviors used to silence folks they might otherwise like. After all, mob justice is never guaranteed to stay in one's favor.
- hjhgjtyhgdf 11y ago
  Which universities have shut down feminists and gay rights activists from speaking? Even the most hard core conservative campuses in the South haven't done so. On the contrary, there are tons of campuses across America who have shut down conservative speakers from speaking. There were Bernie Sanders protesters in Chicago just last week who shut down Donald Trump's right to speak. Can you name instances when Hillary or Bernie Sanders speeches were shut down from conservative protesters?

hartpuff 11y ago

"The Jews" is an accepted shorthand for some people, and like "the left" you can be fairly certain the argument around the term is not going to focus on what a great bunch of lads they are. As to the other point, if both groups are "the left" (even though in this case one group is not behaving that way) then why argue that "the left" is censoring/repressing, when it's at least equally true (I'd say more true) that "the left" is being censored/repressed? I mean it's pretty funny seeing people on "the right" pretending to care that feminists and gay-rights activists are being shut down.

angersock 11y ago
"The Jews" is an accepted shorthand for some people, Many of those people themselves being Jewish, referring to their own communities and people! I see what you're driving at, but the simple fact of the matter is that "leftist" is no more an automatic insult that "rightist" unless one is misidentified. I mean it's pretty funny seeing people on "the right" pretending to care that feminists and gay-rights activists are being shut down. I think it's reasonable that even the most die-hard reactionary may see the existential threat posed by policies and behaviors used to silence folks they might otherwise like. After all, mob justice is never guaranteed to stay in one's favor.
hjhgjtyhgdf 11y ago
Which universities have shut down feminists and gay rights activists from speaking? Even the most hard core conservative campuses in the South haven't done so. On the contrary, there are tons of campuses across America who have shut down conservative speakers from speaking. There were Bernie Sanders protesters in Chicago just last week who shut down Donald Trump's right to speak. Can you name instances when Hillary or Bernie Sanders speeches were shut down from conservative protesters?