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> encouraging to see Google, Microsoft, Yahoo and Comcast For all intents and purposes this is most of the English speaking internet. If you swap Yahoo for Ver

> encouraging to see Google, Microsoft, Yahoo and Comcast For all intents and purposes this is most of the English speaking internet. If you swap Yahoo for Verizon and Apple you'd be pretty close. So, yeah encouraging to get this standard applied, less so if you think it is good for the internet to offload an outsize share of control to 5-10 corporations.

zokier 11y ago
> less so if you think it is good for the internet to offload an outsize share of control to 5-10 corporations That has already happened a long time ago, so lets try to make the best of the situation.
- vonklaus 11y ago
  No. If you are not willing to do anything significant about it, then at least push people not to trade simplicity and ease-of-use with blockchain short term to give the technoloigy a chance to diverge into numerous protocols and subsystems.
sarthakjain 11y ago
Google, Yahoo, Gmail each have more than 300M active email accounts. Ships sailed hit the iceberg and they made a movie about it.
AaronFriel 11y ago
Is there anything about IETF standards that creates an outsize share of control for a limited number of corporations?
- dsr_ 11y ago
  Only in the sense that larger companies can afford to fund their employees to work on IETF standards groups, and are thus more likely to end up contributing, editing and managing IETF groups. The funding is not large, though: no dues, no grants, just the time that people spend and airfare/hotels up to three times a year -- usually two of those being inside the US. And it's possible to have quite a lot of impact simply by volunteering your time in a group in which you have some expertise.
djrogers 11y ago
>swap Yahoo for Verizon and Apple I think you underestimate how much email Yahoo (still) handles. Maybe add Apple to the list, but Verizon is nowhere near the volume / user count of Yahoo.
- Macha 11y ago
  Verizon owns AOL now

zokier 11y ago

> less so if you think it is good for the internet to offload an outsize share of control to 5-10 corporations That has already happened a long time ago, so lets try to make the best of the situation.

vonklaus 11y ago
No. If you are not willing to do anything significant about it, then at least push people not to trade simplicity and ease-of-use with blockchain short term to give the technoloigy a chance to diverge into numerous protocols and subsystems.

sarthakjain 11y ago

Google, Yahoo, Gmail each have more than 300M active email accounts. Ships sailed hit the iceberg and they made a movie about it.

AaronFriel 11y ago

Is there anything about IETF standards that creates an outsize share of control for a limited number of corporations?

dsr_ 11y ago
Only in the sense that larger companies can afford to fund their employees to work on IETF standards groups, and are thus more likely to end up contributing, editing and managing IETF groups. The funding is not large, though: no dues, no grants, just the time that people spend and airfare/hotels up to three times a year -- usually two of those being inside the US. And it's possible to have quite a lot of impact simply by volunteering your time in a group in which you have some expertise.

djrogers 11y ago

>swap Yahoo for Verizon and Apple I think you underestimate how much email Yahoo (still) handles. Maybe add Apple to the list, but Verizon is nowhere near the volume / user count of Yahoo.

Macha 11y ago
Verizon owns AOL now