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You really don't want to negotiate against the other open salaries. Know your worth; if the product you work on brings millions to the table for the company an

by aantix 11y ago

You really don't want to negotiate against the other open salaries. Know your worth; if the product you work on brings millions to the table for the company and you are the lead dev, who gives a rap if your introverted programming partner is making 100k? Know your value. Quantify yourself. Negotiate from the value you bring. Otherwise you're leaving that analysis up to someone else and their offer certainly isn't going to favor you.

bigtunacan 11y ago
Worth is always relative. What metric shall I base it on? If I base it against the salary of all similarly experienced programmers in the world then it is lower than if I narrow it to just the United States. If I narrow it to the United States it may be too high if I live in a smaller rural area with less jobs and am unwilling to move. Then I can narrow it down to my region, but then I may undervalue myself as I could always telecommute. Measuring ones value is always relative and open salaries are to the benefit of the employee not the employer.
- aantix 11y ago
  Of course it's relative, but your average Joe programmer is going to take the same strategy, so what, you're going to end up grouped into the pool of average salaries. Super. If you're not that great of a programmer, then stop there. But if you feel like you make a higher contribution, that the very code that you write is relied upon for generating millions of dollars, why would you frame the discussion around what Average Joe is making down the hallway? These numbers don't matter because you're not like them anyway, and it's up to you to frame your story differently. Show them the numbers. Get the outlier deal. Then take your family on vacation to a remote island. Save extra and not work for 6 months. Get a fucking better than average deal and don't worry about Sad Sally who can't figure out her own worth to get a descent deal.

by aantix 11y ago

bigtunacan 11y ago

Worth is always relative. What metric shall I base it on? If I base it against the salary of all similarly experienced programmers in the world then it is lower than if I narrow it to just the United States. If I narrow it to the United States it may be too high if I live in a smaller rural area with less jobs and am unwilling to move. Then I can narrow it down to my region, but then I may undervalue myself as I could always telecommute. Measuring ones value is always relative and open salaries are to the benefit of the employee not the employer.

aantix 11y ago
Of course it's relative, but your average Joe programmer is going to take the same strategy, so what, you're going to end up grouped into the pool of average salaries. Super. If you're not that great of a programmer, then stop there. But if you feel like you make a higher contribution, that the very code that you write is relied upon for generating millions of dollars, why would you frame the discussion around what Average Joe is making down the hallway? These numbers don't matter because you're not like them anyway, and it's up to you to frame your story differently. Show them the numbers. Get the outlier deal. Then take your family on vacation to a remote island. Save extra and not work for 6 months. Get a fucking better than average deal and don't worry about Sad Sally who can't figure out her own worth to get a descent deal.