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Are those the same people that make assertions based on observations & models lacking legitimate control groups? You seem to be discussing climate scientists,
by yummyfajitas 11y ago
Are those the same people that make assertions based on observations & models lacking legitimate control groups?
You seem to be discussing climate scientists, actually. I guess the NYT shouldn't take their consensus seriously either?
However, if they dont account for currency manipulation, tax loopholes, and labour safety standards, I think those same economists lose a lot of credibility clinging to this fantasy that free trade as we know it is actually free.
Yes they do. Currency manipulation is well understood - it's a country giving things away to other countries. I don't know what you mean by "tax loopholes".
Labor safety standards are also well understood by economists. Here's one article on the topic: http://www.econlib.org/library/Enc/JobSafety.html http://www.econlib.org/library/Enc/JobSafety.html
Economists are also well aware that trade is far from free. For example, Bryan Caplan is a famous advocate of increasing free trade in labor (via open borders). There is a general economic consensus that occupational licensing, as practiced in the US, is exceedingly harmful:
https://www.whitehouse.gov/sites/default/files/docs/licensing_report_final_nonembargo.pdf https://www.whitehouse.gov/sites/default/files/docs/licensin...
https://www.aei.org/publication/the-terrible-economic-burden-of-occupational-licensing/ https://www.aei.org/publication/the-terrible-economic-burden...
https://www.nber.org/chapters/c0601.pdf https://www.nber.org/chapters/c0601.pdf
- pdonis 11y ago> You seem to be discussing climate scientists, actually. I thought what he said applied to both climate scientists and economists. :-) > I guess the NYT shouldn't take their consensus seriously either? Exactly.
- chillwaves 11y agoI'm sure that 9 out of 10 priests believe in the existence of God as well, however the consensus does not strengthen the fundamental assertion. You cannot say the same about climate change scientists. I hope this example has made the difference between economics and science clear.
- yummyfajitas 11y agoI hope this example has made the difference between economics and science clear.  It definitively has not. Rather than making confusing analogies, why not just state explicitly the difference?