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You do this and they catch you, you will be fired. I am a manager who believes in pay people more. Pay them what they want, not what they were making. That said

You do this and they catch you, you will be fired. I am a manager who believes in pay people more. Pay them what they want, not what they were making. That said, if you lie to me, I don't take it well.

tamana 11y ago
Boo hoo. You try to manipulate someone and invade their privacy and then act offended when they lie. Pseufo-moral behavior like that earns zero respect.
YouPlayGames 11y ago
HR and management have the upper hand in the hiring process. If you play these kinds of games when negotiating salary, you deserve to be lied to - whether or not you take it well doesn't matter.
spinlock 11y ago
It's a fair point. Never lie. Say I need $x to move.
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cylinder 11y ago
Lol. You have no right to that information. I'd counter with something like "How much does your wife make?"
mc808 11y ago
No, I swear, your baby is adorable!
stale2002 11y ago
There is literally no way for the employer to find out... What are they going to do? Call up my old workplace and ask exactly how much I am making? It is against the law for employers to reveal salary numbers. I could sue them, lol. Employers play games way worse than this.
- nommm-nommm 11y ago
  It is not against the law for employers to reveal salary information. Some people's salaries (government employees for example) are public information by definition. Non profits have to file paperwork which discloses salaries. We talk about actors and athletes salaries all the time. There is also third party employment verification services that salary information is disclosed to by employers. Your employer can use such third party verification services to see if you are lying about your salary or not.
pyre 11y ago
Just because you say that you believe in paying people more, the person on the other side of the transaction has no way of knowing this. Unless you want to believe that all hiring managers are completely moral and ethical, and would never attempt to underpay someone, then you have to accept that the transaction is adversarial despite you not wanting it to be so.

tamana 11y ago

Boo hoo. You try to manipulate someone and invade their privacy and then act offended when they lie. Pseufo-moral behavior like that earns zero respect.

YouPlayGames 11y ago

HR and management have the upper hand in the hiring process. If you play these kinds of games when negotiating salary, you deserve to be lied to - whether or not you take it well doesn't matter.

spinlock 11y ago

It's a fair point. Never lie. Say I need $x to move.

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cylinder 11y ago

Lol. You have no right to that information. I'd counter with something like "How much does your wife make?"

mc808 11y ago

No, I swear, your baby is adorable!

stale2002 11y ago

There is literally no way for the employer to find out... What are they going to do? Call up my old workplace and ask exactly how much I am making? It is against the law for employers to reveal salary numbers. I could sue them, lol. Employers play games way worse than this.

nommm-nommm 11y ago
It is not against the law for employers to reveal salary information. Some people's salaries (government employees for example) are public information by definition. Non profits have to file paperwork which discloses salaries. We talk about actors and athletes salaries all the time. There is also third party employment verification services that salary information is disclosed to by employers. Your employer can use such third party verification services to see if you are lying about your salary or not.

pyre 11y ago

Just because you say that you believe in paying people more, the person on the other side of the transaction has no way of knowing this. Unless you want to believe that all hiring managers are completely moral and ethical, and would never attempt to underpay someone, then you have to accept that the transaction is adversarial despite you not wanting it to be so.