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> Nonconsensual porn Can't you find a better term? This makes it sound like a rape video.

fweespee_ch 11y ago
Suggestions? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Revenge_porn https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Revenge_porn > The term is also often misused to describe non 'revenge' scenarios, including nonconsensual pornography distributed by hackers or by individuals seeking profit or notoriety I'm not the only one that uses it that way :/
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- hartpuff 11y ago
  I stand by my opinion of the term, it's completely inane, but after risking a search on it, 'only' the first 8 out of 10 results were rape-related porn videos, so it seems to be also used by major sites in the sense you used it. It's the first time I've ever seen the term. Since it seems to be (somehow) a relatively established term for this kind of thing, I guess I'm wrong to ask you to not use it, but I think it's meaning is confusing, and I'd probably just call it a private sex tape. And I realize it's not cool to mention downvotes, but to the people who downvoted the simple question/request I made about this... seriously?
  - zaroth 11y ago
    I didn't downvote, but if you want to avoid them you could try using slightly different wording. E.g. sympathizing that a better term isn't readily available, rather than words which some will read as unnecessary criticism and or sounding exasperated. Like, "I wish there was a better term for this, it makes it sound like a rape video." Actually it's hard to find exactly the right succinct term...
    - hartpuff 11y ago
      Isn't the succinct term (since at least Pam Anderson) "sex tape"? I wrote it the way I did, which I don't think was that bad, because out of about 40 posts, two used the term (which I had never heard of before in this sense) "nonconsensual porn", and they were both by the same poster. What does non-consensual mean in this sense BTW? Does it mean someone is recorded without their consent, or a site publishes someone's video without their consent? And the downvotes keep coming, and for sp332, for simply agreeing and suggesting an alternative, and for my reply to sp332, so it's clearly not simply about how I phrased the question. Some weird people here. Edit: Hahaha. Someone's upset, downvoting every post of mine here.
      - jasonlotito 11y ago
        > Hahaha. Someone's upset, downvoting every post of mine here. OT: I didn't downvote this comment, but I do tend to downvote any comment that mentions downvotes out of the belief that it mentioning it completely detracts from the conversation. Frankly, you should edit your comments to remove the downvote remarks.
        hartpuff 11y ago
        I generally agree that mentioning downvotes is boring, but so is downvoting for petty reasons.
      - acheron 11y ago
        Complaints about downvotes are offtopic and pointless. I doubt it's "someone's upset", it's just general downvoting of offtopic posts.
      - hluska 11y ago
        I downvoted both of the comments in which you mentioned your downvotes. Talking about downvotes adds absolutely nothing to the conversation.
        hartpuff 11y ago
sp332 11y ago
I agree. How about "unauthorized"?
- hartpuff 11y ago
  Unauthorized is certainly better than non-consensual, particularly in a sex-related context, but I would also even question the word porn. I know it's commonly used as in 'revenge porn' but is it 'porn' when people record themselves having sex for private use? Seems to me it trivializes takes away from the issue, which is an invasion of privacy. In fact don't know exactly what Gawker showed, but if the content was pornographic they would presumably be responsible, as all porn publishers are, for complying with record keeping under 18 USC 2257. An impossibility in this case.

Suggestions? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Revenge_porn https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Revenge_porn > The term is also often misused to describe non 'revenge' scenarios, including nonconsensual pornography distributed by hackers or by individuals seeking profit or notoriety I'm not the only one that uses it that way :/

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hartpuff 11y ago
I stand by my opinion of the term, it's completely inane, but after risking a search on it, 'only' the first 8 out of 10 results were rape-related porn videos, so it seems to be also used by major sites in the sense you used it. It's the first time I've ever seen the term. Since it seems to be (somehow) a relatively established term for this kind of thing, I guess I'm wrong to ask you to not use it, but I think it's meaning is confusing, and I'd probably just call it a private sex tape. And I realize it's not cool to mention downvotes, but to the people who downvoted the simple question/request I made about this... seriously?
- zaroth 11y ago
  I didn't downvote, but if you want to avoid them you could try using slightly different wording. E.g. sympathizing that a better term isn't readily available, rather than words which some will read as unnecessary criticism and or sounding exasperated. Like, "I wish there was a better term for this, it makes it sound like a rape video." Actually it's hard to find exactly the right succinct term...
  - hartpuff 11y ago
    Isn't the succinct term (since at least Pam Anderson) "sex tape"? I wrote it the way I did, which I don't think was that bad, because out of about 40 posts, two used the term (which I had never heard of before in this sense) "nonconsensual porn", and they were both by the same poster. What does non-consensual mean in this sense BTW? Does it mean someone is recorded without their consent, or a site publishes someone's video without their consent? And the downvotes keep coming, and for sp332, for simply agreeing and suggesting an alternative, and for my reply to sp332, so it's clearly not simply about how I phrased the question. Some weird people here. Edit: Hahaha. Someone's upset, downvoting every post of mine here.
    - jasonlotito 11y ago
      > Hahaha. Someone's upset, downvoting every post of mine here. OT: I didn't downvote this comment, but I do tend to downvote any comment that mentions downvotes out of the belief that it mentioning it completely detracts from the conversation. Frankly, you should edit your comments to remove the downvote remarks.
      - hartpuff 11y ago
        I generally agree that mentioning downvotes is boring, but so is downvoting for petty reasons.
    - acheron 11y ago
      Complaints about downvotes are offtopic and pointless. I doubt it's "someone's upset", it's just general downvoting of offtopic posts.
    - hluska 11y ago
      I downvoted both of the comments in which you mentioned your downvotes. Talking about downvotes adds absolutely nothing to the conversation.
      - hartpuff 11y ago

sp332 11y ago

I agree. How about "unauthorized"?

hartpuff 11y ago
Unauthorized is certainly better than non-consensual, particularly in a sex-related context, but I would also even question the word porn. I know it's commonly used as in 'revenge porn' but is it 'porn' when people record themselves having sex for private use? Seems to me it trivializes takes away from the issue, which is an invasion of privacy. In fact don't know exactly what Gawker showed, but if the content was pornographic they would presumably be responsible, as all porn publishers are, for complying with record keeping under 18 USC 2257. An impossibility in this case.