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Edit window has expired, so I will say this I do not, and never will, simply assume something about someone. My goal was to present a different perspective than

Edit window has expired, so I will say this I do not, and never will, simply assume something about someone. My goal was to present a different perspective than the article which could be misinterpreted to view international chinese students as victims, and to provide a different opinion on their impact on college campuses. Cheating caused all sorts of issues, especially when it went unpunished.

huac 11y ago
I want to note a similar sentiment, esp. with my above comment. I'm totally in favor of allowing (and encouraging) international students to come to American universities. But I also think international students can be victims if they don't have the language skills to engage with the rest of the school. At least with Chinese students, many come to America because they can't get into good Chinese universities but are still rich. I think students who spend 4 years drifting in a school, not making friends outside of other rich international students, and not engaging with professors or courses, are seriously disserved by the university. Imagine doing 4 years of college in, say, France, without speaking the language - how much could you have benefited vs attending a school in your home country?
- elevenfist 11y ago
  As a counterpoint, many of the international students I encountered weren't particularly interested in interacting with students from other backgrounds, or even particularly curious about America. I do remember one student who may have fit the above description in undergrad. He had a heavy accent, (but that's never been a problem with me, most accents are pretty consistent and you can adapt quickly) wasn't doing too well with his studies. He was difficult to engage with in general. However, I was fairly sure he was enjoying the party life when he wasn't in class, and he wasn't interested in interacting with me, or from what I saw, anyone who wasn't from the same background.

huac 11y ago

I want to note a similar sentiment, esp. with my above comment. I'm totally in favor of allowing (and encouraging) international students to come to American universities. But I also think international students can be victims if they don't have the language skills to engage with the rest of the school. At least with Chinese students, many come to America because they can't get into good Chinese universities but are still rich. I think students who spend 4 years drifting in a school, not making friends outside of other rich international students, and not engaging with professors or courses, are seriously disserved by the university. Imagine doing 4 years of college in, say, France, without speaking the language - how much could you have benefited vs attending a school in your home country?

elevenfist 11y ago
As a counterpoint, many of the international students I encountered weren't particularly interested in interacting with students from other backgrounds, or even particularly curious about America. I do remember one student who may have fit the above description in undergrad. He had a heavy accent, (but that's never been a problem with me, most accents are pretty consistent and you can adapt quickly) wasn't doing too well with his studies. He was difficult to engage with in general. However, I was fairly sure he was enjoying the party life when he wasn't in class, and he wasn't interested in interacting with me, or from what I saw, anyone who wasn't from the same background.