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America already has many of the best Universities in the world. From looking at international rankings it looks like the domestic educational problems are more
by saint_fiasco 11y ago
America already has many of the best Universities in the world.
From looking at international rankings it looks like the domestic educational problems are more in the middle and high-school level. The Universities are doing great.
- elevenfist 11y agoProfessors across the country (three West coast, two east coast, one sw) have told me that undergrad is going to shit actually, but grad school is still ok for now.
- saint_fiasco 11y agoShitty high-school means unprepared undergrad students, which means comparatively better foreign students.
- elevenfist 11y agoMore honest professors admit that it's universities that are really dropping the ball.
- saint_fiasco 11y agoDo they blame the professors or the administration? If it's the professors all hope is lost, since future professors will be taught by the people who are currently dropping the ball.
- duaneb 11y agoAnd yet, more and more of the students at the top schools are international. The non-top schools are failing to provide students with competitive schools, but are still driving students into debt. We may have quality teaching, but we are not educating ourselves.
- saint_fiasco 11y agoMaybe international students are at the top because you guys have terrible high-schools. It's also possible that the reason the top Universities are at the top is that the top foreign students want to go there. That means giving Americans more preferential treatment may "break the spell" so to speak.
- duaneb 11y agoNo argument here—high schools are part of the problem. Even more of a reason to invest there now rather than over seas.